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  •  I'm not sure you're right (4+ / 0-)

    I've never heard of Canton Tech, but Potsdam is a reputable school in at least some disciplines (for example, their Crane School of Music is probably second - albeit a distant second - to Purchase's among the undergraduate music programs in the SUNY system), and a friend of mine from the Bronx went to SUNY-Plattsburgh. She said it was a party school, but so was SUNY at Purchase when I was there, and some serious learning was also happening there.

    Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

    by MichaelNY on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 07:33:10 AM PST

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    •  I applied to SUNY Buffalo... (1+ / 0-)
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      Back in the 90s when I graduated from HS, and at that time, only 15% of their student body was drawn from downstate.  I would presume except for very specific programs it would be less at most of the lower-tier state universities.  

      •  Your presumption (1+ / 0-)
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        May or may not be right in the time period you quote (it can't be right over longer time frames).  But the SUNY population has grown WAY faster than the overall population in upstate NY, so the impact of SUNY by definition has had to grow hugely.  

        I mean Erie County (Biffalo) showed -3% population growth from 2000-10, but UB enrollment grew 10%.  Where could these people have come from?

        These graphics are pretty neat; you can see that upstate around plattsburgh/canton has the lowest percentage of population with college degrees in the state, so it's probably likely that the growth in these schools could be coming from downstate (of course it also could be other reasons, none of which seem provable or disprovable)

        http://apb.buffalo.edu/...

        "What if you're on a game show one day and the name of some random New Jersey state senator is the only thing between you and several thousand dollars? And you'll think to yourself, "if only I had clapped faster." - sapelcovits

        by rdw72777 on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 08:21:19 AM PST

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    •  That's funny (2+ / 0-)
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      I bet you every Potsdam student thinks their music school is the best.  I think probably over half of upstate NY music teachers are from Potsdam.  They touted the school even in my elementary music classes.

      But more to the political point, I'd guess a huge chunk of every SUNY school is from downstate, though certain schools will have more locals than others.  Also, community colleges throughout upstate NY are increasing doing residential dorms for non-locals.  Heck SUNY Adirondack (renamed from Adirondack Community College) is in the process of not only building dorms but going from a 2-year to a 4-year school.

      SUNY schools are so frigging cheap the schools will continue to grow so long as the infrastructure can handle it, even for out-of-state the tuition to a SUNY Albany/Binghamton/Buffalo/Stony Brook is like $15K.

      "What if you're on a game show one day and the name of some random New Jersey state senator is the only thing between you and several thousand dollars? And you'll think to yourself, "if only I had clapped faster." - sapelcovits

      by rdw72777 on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 07:52:43 AM PST

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