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  •  What the murderers.... (8+ / 0-)

    .....DESERVE, and how society and the state should RESPOND, are not contiguous.

    The state should not be in the business of ending lives.  Keeping monsters in prison permanently is a proper response.

    If you give them the right to kill anyone, you're ceding to them the right to kill YOU if they choose.

    I don't agree to giving them that right.

    "Ronald Reagan is DEAD! His policies live on but we're doing something about THAT!"

    by leftykook on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 07:24:15 AM PST

    •  And while we're on the subject... (2+ / 0-)
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      quill, auapplemac

      ...I wanna know what chowder-brained morons let that guy who beat his Gramma to death with a hammer outta jail so that he could murder firemen and burn down his neighborhood!

      "Ronald Reagan is DEAD! His policies live on but we're doing something about THAT!"

      by leftykook on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 07:51:04 AM PST

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    •  keep in prison... is that the ultimate punishment? (0+ / 0-)

      I am not convinced with the STATE can kill YOU argument. In India, there are a zillion checks and balances. So too, in theory, in US. For eg: A death penalty can be awarded by any court in India but every court above that court (state high court - equivalent to state supreme court as well as the Supreme Court of India), the Home Minister, the Prime Minister and the President have to DENY mercy pleas for the accussed. The most recent death penalty that was carried out was that of the Mumbai Terror attacker who was part of a team of 10 people that massacred 170 in 2008.

      With such checks and balances, why should we not retain the death penalty for the worst of worst crimes?

    •  Well, to take that a little further ... (1+ / 0-)
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      ... if you give them the right to imprison anyone, then you're ceding to them the right to imprison you if they choose.

      The fact that the punishment could be applied to you or me or anybody isn't in itself a reason to make it not an option.

      •  i am confused ... (1+ / 0-)
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        we are NOT ceding to the state the ABSOLUTE right to imprison & execute someone. we are EMPOWERING the state to have a due process to execute guys who have committed worst of worst crimes AFTER they have had MULTIPLE LAYERS OF MANDATORY REVIEWS validating the judgement ...

        isn't it a stretch to go from executing folks convicted of dealth penalty sentences to imprisioning & executing common man walking on the street ...

    •  I've always thought that life w/o parole in (0+ / 0-)

      Solitary is a much worse punishment than death.  And better for society.

      Cats are better than therapy, and I'm a therapist.

      by Smoh on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 10:25:31 AM PST

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