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  •  By the way... (13+ / 0-)

    http://www.defense.gov/...

    That's the text of the speech.

    $2.3 trillion is an odd figure since at the time that would have been more than the entire defense budget for the previous ten years.  He might have been saying that they don't track any of their spending.

    •  I hope some of us will READ that speech. It's pret (16+ / 0-)

      ty much all there in a nutshell, the whole effing shell game of careerist meets predatory capitalist and they "do lunch" on the fricasseed bodies of GIs and "collateral damage" casserole, with a side of mawkish faux "patriotism" and a splurge of whipped-up cream.

      It sure looks like not a goddamn thing that he was jawing about there has changed even a tiny whit: the weapon procurers create faux "threats" to justify the next geometrically more expensive, intrusive and lethal numbskullery, Congress soaks its districts in the pork fat, and away we all go on another "war of choice."

      I think he was in fact saying  that a lot of the nation's wealth has disappeared into a self-stimulating, growing, insatiable, indefatigable, implacable enemy of a rat hole, a place full of people who are all about protecting their programs and turf and growing them without a freakin' thought about larger consequences, and that the Pentacle is well chosen as the shape for that thing, and that guess what, folks? Sure looks like there's not a goddamn thing you or I or even a lot of us together can do about it except maybe a tiny bit of nibbling around the edges of that enormous ripe cheese...

      And then you have the trools here who whisper "can't cut DEFENSE now, don't you know there's a WAR, er, RECESSION on? What kind of Commie A-rab lovin' critter are you, anyway? Stay the course! Stay the course!"

      "Is that all there is?" Peggy Lee.

      by jm214 on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 04:40:31 PM PST

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      •  Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) was on Thomm (3+ / 0-)
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        Senator Bernie Sanders was on Thomm Hartman's  show on Talk Left - XM-127 on Friday 9/14/12. Someone called with a question about the money missing from the Pentagon. Sen. Sanders confirmed that the night before 9/11 Rumsfeld reported that there was $2.3T missing receipts, etc. in the Pentagon. Senator Sanders is still looking into the matter.

        According to former Gov. Jesse Ventura's investigative report: when the explosion happened in the Pentagon on 9/11 it hit the area where the staffers worked that found the discrepancies - killing all of them and their computers and paperwork, except one survivor of that staff A*** ** lived and ended walking out of the hole in the wall and snached her baby who was wearing a onesie was at work with her that day. A** was hospitalized and military brass questioned her.  She said it was a bomb.  They told her it was a plane.  She has been threadented by military according to Ventura's reporting.

        I have a vcr of Ventura's show but don't know how it convert it to put it up on dkos.

      •  this is all faux concern (0+ / 0-)

        Keep in mind the K Street talking points. Rumsfeld starts by making "bureaucracy" the bogeyman. He means "regulations" -- specifically those involved with acquisitions. He goes on to say that the Pentagon must "transform" how "daily business" is conducted. That "modernization" he refers to has nothing to do with the waste he laments.

        Consider this snapshot. One out of every five officers in the United States Navy is a physician. That's not to single out the Navy or to suggest that too many doctors wear uniforms. The Navy and Marine Corps' forward deployments generate unique medical needs. Rather, it's to say that some of those needs, especially where they may involve general practice or specialties unrelated to combat, might be more efficiently delivered by the private sector. And all of them would likely be more efficiently delivered with fewer overlapping bureaucracies.
        Ignore the crocodile tears for those who wear the uniform. And those $billions? That's the brass ring that he and his ilk are ever reaching for.

        All things in the sky are pure to those who have no telescopes. – Charles Fort

        by subtropolis on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 08:56:01 PM PST

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    •  not what he meant (1+ / 0-)
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      The technology revolution has transformed organizations across the private sector, but not ours, not fully, not yet. We are, as they say, tangled in our anchor chain. Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible.
      Note, first, that this is "according to some estimates" so it could be from Jeff Beck or Grover Norquist for all we know.

      More importantly, he's talking about a legacy of transactional data that isn't easily accounted for because of the variety of systems it is represented by. That is, his remarks are less about the sort of shenanigans Rumsfeld & Co. got up to later in Iraq, with $billions simply disappearing no questions asked, than making the case for privatizing the Pentagon's budget.

      All things in the sky are pure to those who have no telescopes. – Charles Fort

      by subtropolis on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 09:09:11 PM PST

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      •  oops s/not/that's (2+ / 0-)
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        More or less. Yes, he was talking about about several years of transactions. BUT he was not saying that the money was lost. Just that it wasn't easy to track it all.

        And even then, he was likely fibbing more than a little. This entire speech was about making the case for the private sector to be more directly attached to the Pentagon's teat.

        All things in the sky are pure to those who have no telescopes. – Charles Fort

        by subtropolis on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 09:16:52 PM PST

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