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  •  but, if people lost access to what had been (5+ / 0-)

    in place, there would be a lot of screaming. And House Representatives are the most vulnerable to small constituency groups.

    Given that the jobs numbers are still bad. That 350,000 have left UI and just given up looking for jobs. I would think it would be very likely that they would pass something quickly.

    You don't think so?

    •  I think we need an unemployed union (2+ / 0-)
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      liberaldemdave, UnaSpenser

      to push these things.  Or at least an association.  There's enough people who are out of work for long enough that it could be useful.

      The revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

      by AoT on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 12:28:45 PM PST

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    •  If House Reps are in gerymandered (0+ / 0-)

      districts, they can basically tell us all to go pound sand and their constituents will nod their heads sagely.

      If the House GOP was so vulnerable to small constituency groups, don't you think they would have done it already by now??!  That makes no sense...

    •  not really (0+ / 0-)

      even in the bluest districts there is a portion of the community that can and would argue that "we're paying people to not work for 2 years. when does it end."

      it's not that they want to take away UI benefits, just that there should be a time limit.

      again, not supporting their plan, just saying that putting a time limit of checks being sent out is not even close to the wingnutties idea out there

      •  but, here is the bigger point: there will always (0+ / 0-)

        be something for conservatives to hold out and say, "give us what we want or we will let these people suffer." And the Dems have basically proven again and again that they will let go of a bigger agenda in order to save whatever the hostage of the day is. There will always be a hostage.

        And, see, we can't really effectively take hostages. The wealthy aren't going to be unable to eat or keep their homes or go to the doctors, no matter what is done to the tax code. So, we can never put anything on the table which would cause them to suffer enough that they would cave in on anything else.

        We simply can't negotiate with hostage-takers. How far down the abyss will we be before we come to terms with that?

    •  I don't know where you live, (0+ / 0-)

      but I live in MN-06 and it is a very common view here that UI is welfare and should be abolished.

      And some of the people that believe that are on UI.

      These are very common views outside of the blue bubbles in this country. I encourage kossacks to get out and explore more.

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