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  •  I don't expect anything. (2+ / 0-)
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    lcrp, josmndsn

    Because GOP will threaten WWIII and use every trick and tool in their chest to obstruct and too many Dems believe in the comity shit.  

    Also there was the big fiscal cliff bi-partisan vote yesterday - which I think will turn some on the fence reformers against any reforms afterall.  

    President Obama would have been a Republican in the 1980's.

    by Jacoby Jonze on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 11:53:22 AM PST

    •  JJ - I don't think there are 51 Dem votes (1+ / 0-)
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      in the Senate for real filibuster reform. I do think they will make some changes but nothing dramatic.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 01:17:19 PM PST

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      •  Result was probably presaged by a ancient (0+ / 0-)

        Roman author:
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        A mountain was in labor, sending forth dreadful groans, and there was in the region the highest expectation. After all, it brought forth a mouse. ~ Phaedrus (Roman writer, first cent. AD)
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        Delenda est filibuster!

        by TofG on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 01:18:55 PM PST

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    •  NOTHING will be done since ... (0+ / 0-)

      sitting Senators of both parties like POWER.

      The election mandate of the people be damned!

      The Senate was created because the founding fathers didn't think the common man throught their Representatives were capable of doing the proper things.

      Senators were initially appointed as a control with more mature  party leaders to be able to correct all the lousy work of the House.

      Majority Rule was never a concept adopted by the Senate and it likely never will be in the future.

      If filibuster change is to be done, it must be by We the People through the federal courts to declare this Senate rule UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

      Recent bad news:

      Challenge to U.S. Senate's filibuster rule fails
      Atlanta Business Chronicle by Dave Williams, Staff Writer
      Date: Monday, December 31, 2012, 10:35am EST

      A federal judge in Washington, D.C., has dismissed a lawsuit challenging the U.S. Senate’s filibuster rule argued by a prominent Atlanta attorney.

      In a decision dated Dec. 21, U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan ruled that the government-accountability group Common Cause and seven individual plaintiffs lacked legal standing to bring the case.

      The plaintiffs – including U.S. Reps. John Lewis, D-Atlanta, and Hank Johnson, D-Stone Mountain ­– had claimed that the failure of immigration-reform legislation in the Senate because of the filibuster rule’s requirement of a super-majority of 60 votes to end debate on pending bills amounted to an “injury” legally sufficient for them to challenge the filibuster’s constitutionality in court.

      If US Congressmen don't have standing, why not find a sitting Senator willing to go to court to change a Senate rule.

      *Austerity is the opposite of Prosperity*

      by josmndsn on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 03:28:09 PM PST

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