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  •  I'll have to phone my friends in Sils-Maria (4+ / 0-)

    and inform them of their illegal alpine activities.
    Got in Himmel, they're criminals!

    As to gunshows?  I believe you're correct.  They travel to Germany for those.

    •  So, no gunshows! Then there's a;so the part about (1+ / 0-)
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      how Switzerland has no standing military, and practices stringent neutrality.

      That's not apples to oranges. Standard NRA talking points?

      There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

      by oldpotsmuggler on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 09:39:40 AM PST

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      •  They travel to the equivalent of (1+ / 0-)
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        the Paris Airshow.  The US "Shot Show" is similar but perhaps smaller.

        The Swiss have a standing military, comprised of those persons called to active-duty for a 2 year stint, and their supervising Officer corps.

        As to "standard talking points" you really need to do better than MAIG and Brady if you're going to hit me up about Switzerland.
        Uf Widerluege.

        •  You're not a Republican (are you?), you don't (0+ / 0-)

          get your own facts
          Gun politics in Switzerland are unique in Europe. Switzerland does not have a standing army, instead opting for a people's militia for its national defense.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/...

          also "To purchase a firearm in a commercial shop, one needs to have a Waffenerwerbsschein (weapon acquisition permit). A permit allows the purchase of three firearms. Everyone over the age of 18 who is not psychiatrically disabled (such as having had a history of endangering his own life or the lives of others) or identified as posing security problems, and who has a clean criminal record (requires a Criminal Records Bureau check) can request such a permit.[9]
          To buy a gun from an individual, no permit is needed, but the seller is expected to establish a reasonable certainty that the purchaser will fulfill the above-mentioned conditions (usually done through a Criminal Records Bureau check). The participants in such a transaction are required to prepare a written contract detailing the identities of both vendor and purchaser, the weapon's type, manufacturer, and serial number. The law requires the written contract to be kept for ten years by the buyer and seller. The seller is also required to see some official ID from the purchaser, for such sales are only allowed to Swiss nationals and foreigners with a valid residence permit, with the exception of those foreigners that come from certain countries (Croatia, Bosnia, Macedonia, Turkey, Sri Lanka, Albania, Algeria), to whom such sales are not allowed even if they do have a residence permit. Foreigners without a residence permit must ask for Waffenerwerbsschein (weapon acquisition permit). [10]"

          All bullshit aside, what part of that sounds like where you live?

          There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

          by oldpotsmuggler on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 07:09:59 PM PST

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          •  Perhaps you should meet some Swiss (1+ / 0-)
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            and find out how well that Wikipedia article is adhered-to.

            As to the exclusion of certain "lesser-persons" to equal rights, I've no recourse but to agree.

            •  On my trips to Switzerland (admittedly when I (0+ / 0-)

              was in the position some years back to avail myself of the money laundering opportunities) I'm not sure I ever met anyone who was not Swiss. And I must say, everyone I dealt with was 100% by the book. In fact one teller really sticks in my mind because of the way that she smiled so genuinely when she was counting out my $1,000 bills, and apologizing for not having more of them available.

              There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

              by oldpotsmuggler on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 09:31:11 PM PST

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          •  Grandma already knows how to suck eggs, sonny. n/t (0+ / 0-)
            •  Possibly the most interesting comment I've ever (0+ / 0-)

              read here. Totally inane, but interesting nonetheless.

              There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

              by oldpotsmuggler on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 09:33:12 PM PST

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