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  •  Obama did not cave on the $250,000 limit. On this (4+ / 0-)

    O'Donnell was correct. Chuck Schumer and other Democrats (esp. in richer states like NY, Cal., and Conn.) wanted a higher #. $400,000-$450,000 was a successful figure.

    Delenda est filibuster!

    by TofG on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 07:49:50 AM PST

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      •  too bad his congressional comrades (0+ / 0-)

        did not go along with it...

        during the election both schuler and pelosi are on public record wanting the limit to be $1.0 million.

        you want the same things, you need to need to be on the same page.

        O was not just negotiating with boner, he was negotiating with his side of Congress. it's how it goes and not fair to lay it all on the president.

        not the first time someone campaigned on something. most educated observers are aware these are best case scenarios and I believe he wanted that but in the system we govern in, you can't do it alone.

        mittens=edsel. no matter how much money is spent to promote it, if the product sucks, no one will buy it.

        by wewantthetruth on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 10:46:19 AM PST

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    •  It was in the 2012 platform (1+ / 0-)
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      To help spur economic growth, President Obama and the Democratic Party cut taxes for every working family—providing $3,600 in tax relief to the typical family over the President's first term in office—and we are committed to extending the middle class tax cuts for the 98 percent of American families who make less than $250,000 a year, and we will not raise taxes on them.
      So now it could be amended to read "President Obama and the Democratic party..... are committed to extending the middle class tax cuts for.... families who make less than $450,000 a year".

      You can say you think it was okay for him to break the vow but saying he didn't campaign on it is false.

    •  DKos primer on How Bills Are Passed (3+ / 0-)

      Although Congress originates, writes and passes all legislation as mandated by the U.S. Constitution, the President is solely and personally responsible for the content of all bills that are disapproved of at Daily Kos and he plays no meaningful role at whatsoever in bills that are approved of, like ending Don't Ask, Don't Tell or the parts of healthcare reform that are supported here.

      The choice of our lifetime: Mitt Romney, It Takes A Pillage or President Barack Obama, Forward Together.

      by FiredUpInCA on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 08:40:03 AM PST

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    •  Primary the traitors in 2014. n/t (0+ / 0-)

      Corporations before people.... it's the American way!

      by Lucy2009 on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 09:10:55 AM PST

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