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  •  Your second arguementd reminds me of... (0+ / 0-)

    ...a commonly given arguement that I used to hear about why shouldn't pass the ERA.

    Can't mess with perfection.

    •  The difference is (3+ / 0-)
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      that the ERA would have expanded constitutional rights. I have no problem with amending the constitution to do that. We have done it before with the 13th, 14th, 15th, 19th, 24th and 26th amendments.

      What you have to be careful of is amending the constitution to strip away people's rights.

      •  The 2nd, as interpreted by Scalia, doesn't... (0+ / 0-)

        ...give rights to people, it gives rights to guns.

        There's a difference.

        The 20 children and 6 women who were massacred in Sandy Hook Elementary are people. The 2nd Amendment didn't protect their rights.

        The AR-15 Bushmaster that killed them is a gun. And that gun's rights were indeed well protected by the 2nd Amendment.

        But guns are not people, my friend.

        •  What rights do guns have?nt (0+ / 0-)

          Republicans cause more damage than guns ever will. Share Our Wealth

          by KVoimakas on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 06:35:02 AM PST

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          •  Guns have no rights. (1+ / 0-)
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            If I owned a gun, I could torture it, I could lock it up forever, and I can even destroy it if I wanted to.

            It is people who have the right to own a gun, and like it or not, a lot of people consider that one of their most fundamental rights.

            Still, the idea that victims of gun violence also have rights is a useful idea in this debate. So whenever someone talks about gun owners' rights, it can be an effective response to say, what about the rights of all those kindergarten kids?

            The point is, you can acknowledge that gun owners have rights, and still support regulation of those rights.

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