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  •  Here's the problem...we opened this door with... (5+ / 0-)

    ...the fiscal cliff "deal", which systematically removed our greatest bargaining chip and detached taxes from any potential entitlement matters.

    Now, when spending rears its head along with the debt ceiling two months from now, the GOP can point at the WH and senate when chained CPI and other Big 3 "reforms" are discussed and ultimately passed and signed.

    Only when the smoke clears in 2014 will we realize just how much we handed the GOP.

    •  not true (1+ / 0-)
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      wishingwell

      what Obama and the dems did was take the 1.2 trillion of cuts, and already cut it in half by raising 600B from revenue.  There can now be a 1:1 ratio (much better than the 10:1 R's refused a year ago).

      95% of all life forms that once existed on earth are now extinct. It is only a matter of time until the Republicans follow suit.

      by PRRedlin on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 03:58:30 PM PST

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      •  100% true... (1+ / 0-)
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        Williston Barrett

        These items should have been  negotiated together. I don't care how much they whine about debt, TAXES are the sacred cow for Republicans. They have absolutely nothing to lose when negotiating now and can hold negotiations hostage to their heart's content because they don't care about recessions or default, but rather taking the senate back and humiliating Barack Obama.

        Live in denial all you want...this was a STUPID deal on the part of Senate Dems and the WH.

        •  framing is everything (0+ / 0-)

          you really think they want to lose defense funding?

          95% of all life forms that once existed on earth are now extinct. It is only a matter of time until the Republicans follow suit.

          by PRRedlin on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 05:07:18 PM PST

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          •  If it means gutting the Big 3, absolutely... (0+ / 0-)

            Sorry...that's my take on these nuts...and now we have to negotiate with them in 2 months with no tax deals to hold over their heads.

            God help us...

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