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  •  What muddies the waters (1+ / 0-)
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    Beetwasher

    Is preemptively freaking out at Obama rather than republicans (or even blue dogs).  This lets the Rs off the hook and excuses a refusal to evaluate details.  As the example of Romney's campaign agn the $760 bn cut, not all things are equal.

    Besides, Obama lost that same group in 08 I think.

    Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

    by Loge on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 03:58:53 PM PST

    •  Obama Will Point To Sequestration And Say (0+ / 0-)

      "Those are the cuts, you don't like them?  Whatchya got?"

      This post is dedicated to myself, without whom, I'd be somebody else. Though I'd still be an asshole. My Music: [http://www.myspace.com/beetwasher]

      by Beetwasher on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 04:17:32 PM PST

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      •  I hope you are right - (0+ / 0-)

        but I worry that he can't use defense cuts as leverage because Dems love defense as much as the GOP does - whether they admit it or not.  In addition, there are jobs in the defense industry - an inconvenient truth - but truth nonetheless.

        •  For Reduction in defense Seq We get Reduction in (1+ / 0-)
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          Discretionary seq. Dollar for dollar.

          All the cuts are already offered and it will be all the leverage Obama needs.  That and US making a stink.

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          by Beetwasher on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 04:35:08 PM PST

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      •  well, obama has come out against (1+ / 0-)
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        the cuts on the discretionary side.  

        I don't think Obama would have ever agreed to sequester anything unless he absolutely could not live with them.  The total dollar amounts we can live with, but the substance of the cuts matters, and that's why Obama has to come out with his own proposal, which will probably also have additional spending requests in it, and it has to be passable by the House, meaning there will be stuff progressives don't like (but yet better than the specifcs of the sequestered amounts).  

        Still, I like the idea that every dollar of spending on defense the republicans want to add back, they should insist on finding new revenues (loopholes) and can substitute domestic spending cuts only with Obama's agreement and which are themselves counted towards the domestic side of the sequestration.

        Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

        by Loge on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 04:49:44 PM PST

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