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  •  Reminds me of something (3+ / 0-)
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    Pluto, Matt Z, fuzzyguy

    my 16 yr old son said when all the gun control debates broke out:

    "God, Typical American flash mob reaction.. then we'll move on to something else..."

    Frodo: What are we holding onto, Sam? Sam: That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo... and it's worth fighting for.

    by Starbrite on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 04:03:02 PM PST

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    •  I haven't moved on. I am a teacher. (8+ / 0-)

      And I hope you haven't moved on. We can show young people the value of committment here. They don't believe us when we say we care about issues, because they think we will move along to the next "exciting" news cycle, as they do. This normalizes crisis.  This is our chance to show them.

      Figures don't lie, but liars do figure-Mark Twain

      by OregonOak on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 04:15:45 PM PST

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      •  What? (1+ / 0-)
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        They don't believe us when we say we care about issues, because they think we will move along to the next "exciting" news cycle, as they do.
        That is because the massive majority of people DO move on to the next "exciting" news cycle 99.9998% of the time. It's time to model good behavior, yes, but you're blaming young people's own cynicism on the fact that "they" themselves move on too quickly? What?
        •  No Blame.. adults lead the way (3+ / 0-)
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          Stuart Heady, glorificus, fuzzyguy

          in cynicism and short attention span emotionalism. Kids learn that they should not care either, because the adults in their lives have 24-hour news cycle brains, and few adults have their backs when they try to think more deeply and with more consistency.

          As Kurt Vonnegut said, we are the only country on earth with historical amnesia. Or as Mark Twain said, a lie can run around the world before the truth even gets its shoes tied. That is our nature, so kids just follow the pattern.

          Figures don't lie, but liars do figure-Mark Twain

          by OregonOak on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 09:41:01 PM PST

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