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  •  No, no, no! Going to a drugstore like that is (1+ / 0-)
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    a good way to get all sorts of nasty complications like bursitis/tendonitis as the people who give the shots are rarely actual medical professionals skilled in giving IM injections but someone who just had a short class on doing it and could very well have not given anyone an injection since last year.  I would never get any vaccinations anywhere except a doctor's office or public health center.  To be specific, the upper third of the deltoid is a no-go zone for injections (PubMed abstract link) and if you actually check alot of the anti-vax stories almost all of the say "when they gave me the shot it seems like they gave it a bit high (into the subdeltoid bursa, to be exact)".  However, that's not a problem with vaccinations, the actual problem is poorly trained "needle monkeys" because they are cheaper than actual nurses or other skilled medical professionals.

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    by Throw The Bums Out on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 06:54:22 PM PST

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    •  If people go in with the information you just gave (1+ / 0-)
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      them, they may be able to prevent those complications.
      Are bursitis and tendonitis(if they occur) more deadly than whooping cough? Are they more deadly than knowing you infected a loved granchild or niece or nephew?

      Or if you are a volunteer reading to children.

      Stop the hysterics.

      You don't need to be "a trained medical professional" to give injections. Plenty of people carry epipens, glucagon, family caregivers have been trained to do home dialysis, for FSM sake.

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      by CuriousBoston on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 05:53:35 AM PST

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      •  Still, keep in mind that the "training" involved (1+ / 0-)
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        in most cases is minimal, just an hour long class and one practice injection if that.  Why else would walmart of all places specifically advertise the use of nurses to give flu shots if poorly trained and heavily rushed "needle monkeys" wasn't a problem?  Remember, in most states there are no regulations on what is required for such drugstore vaccinations.  Besides, is it really that much more trouble to go down to your local public health department?

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        by Throw The Bums Out on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 06:09:50 AM PST

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        •  Well, does everybody have the transportation? (0+ / 0-)

          Are they able to take off time from work without losing their job?

          Yes, it may much more trouble.

          What does Walmart advertising have to do with "needle monkeys"?

          So you have any references at all to people having major complications from receiving vaccines from pharmacists? You do realize the training required for pharmacists, and pharmacy technologists.

          You state that the training is minimal. Prove it.

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          by CuriousBoston on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 05:01:51 PM PST

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