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  •  I like Joe. BUT (1+ / 0-)
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    the Pollitikat

    I didnt vote for him in a primary because of reasons outside his control; his health history is just not good enough. I dont think he would survive a Presidential term.

    And now that he is older, there is more reason to be concerned. Being President today requires people with no history of health problems. I am sorry to say that, but its true. The job eats healthy people alive, and older people with health problems in their past should do what they can do from the second position or in the other critical positions.

    This ain't 1890 or 1920. Its too big and too fast for most people now.

    Figures don't lie, but liars do figure-Mark Twain

    by OregonOak on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 06:42:06 AM PST

    •  I agree his health might be the biggest (0+ / 0-)

      negative for him

      It is my ambition to say in ten sentences what others say in a whole book"-Nietzsche

      by the Pollitikat on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 06:56:28 AM PST

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      •  yes, that, and (1+ / 0-)
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        the fact that every time he's run for president he has finished at the wrong end of the pack. people are suddenly going to be invigorated with energy over the candidacy of a 72-year old biden, when a 64-year-old biden shot himself in the foot right out of the gate in '08, and also lost badly in '88? meanwhile, hillary clinton came within an inch of securing the nomination in '08, losing only because of the unprecedented electoral machine built by a cone-in-a-lifetime candidate, she has a huge base of democratic support, is an internationally respected figure and one of the most accomplished, senior members of government with a significant portfolio of policy responsibilities, and considering her the front-runner is some sort of affront to biden, who is a proven losing commodity at the presidential level? that doesnt make an ounce of sense.

        •  she didnt win in 2008 (0+ / 0-)

          she lost what was supposed to be a sure thing--and I think that is what will happen again--but this time in the general.  I think Hillary will lose in a general.

          It is my ambition to say in ten sentences what others say in a whole book"-Nietzsche

          by the Pollitikat on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 09:19:25 AM PST

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          •  she lost to (0+ / 0-)

            the guy who eventually went on to become the president of the united states. and she only lost after raising hundreds of millions of dollars and collecting a large swath of delegates, very nearly besting him. if that loss is a disqualifier, why, exactly, is biden even in the conversation?

        •  I am not necessarily Pro-Hilary either.. (1+ / 0-)
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          We should start cultivating some of our rising stars. Especially since the Repub bench is so weak and scattered ideologically. Obama is likely to create a Democratic platform which is solid and consensus-based, and the next nominee will be able to bounce from it and reach pretty far.

          Christine Gregoire
          Jeff Merkely
          Deval Patrick
          Russ Feingold
          Kristin Gillibrand
          Elizabeth Warren
          Jerry Brown
          Nancy Pelosi

          pop into mind, and there are more Democrats who would make great Presidents. This is not a royal position. Sometimes, most of the time, its best if a non-legacy hire rises through the ranks.

          Figures don't lie, but liars do figure-Mark Twain

          by OregonOak on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 10:06:58 AM PST

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          •  I would love it if Nancy won, I dont (0+ / 0-)

            know why she doesnt go for it.  she has just as good a chance as any

            It is my ambition to say in ten sentences what others say in a whole book"-Nietzsche

            by the Pollitikat on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 04:53:45 PM PST

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