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  •  But, but, but Obama has no leverage now! (7+ / 0-)

    It has to be true, otherwise it would mean giving the president the credit he deserves based on the facts and we can't have that!

    Picture a bright blue ball just spinnin' spinnin' free. It's dizzy with possibility.

    by lockewasright on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 08:30:13 AM PST

    •  Ok, he does have it and so he can stick to his (1+ / 0-)
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      word to not negotiate bupkis on the Debt Ceiling.

      Clean bill only, period.

      If there's horse trading based on "they'll shoot the hostage", when everyone knows they won't, there will be hell to pay.

      •  I don't know under whose authority you are (0+ / 0-)

        going to exact this hell payment unless Dkos pragmatism haters become a voting majority over the next two months and decide to keep him from running for a third term in violation of existing law.

        Putting that over estimation of the powers of the strategically handicapped aside, what if there is a way to get a deal that is superior to a clean bill?  Can the president have your permission then to keep out negotiating the right wing extremists just as he has over and over again?

        All of that aside, without knowing of any better arrangement out there, I would prefer that he not negotiate at all with the hostage takers.  That doesn't mean that I will pretend that a better arrangement isn't a better arrangement if one emerges.

        Picture a bright blue ball just spinnin' spinnin' free. It's dizzy with possibility.

        by lockewasright on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 02:10:53 PM PST

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    •  I read it on DKos, so it must be true! (1+ / 0-)
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      Impeach Norquist!

      by kitebro on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 11:58:13 AM PST

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