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  •  Israel. (3+ / 0-)
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    beltane, seethruit, Alexandre

    This is all about Israel and nothing but Israel. This is a shot across the bow of Netanyahu's flagship. Check that, this is a shot at the bridge.

    Obama has a fairly established image in the mind of the public as a softy. But actions like this suggest he can, in fact, be quite the asshole when he thinks he needs to be.

    You can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America.

    by Eric Stratton on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 03:10:51 PM PST

    •  With regards to Netanyahu (2+ / 0-)
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      Eric Stratton, seethruit

      Obama really does need to be an asshole. This is for the good of both Israel and the United States although the Israeli government won't see it that way.

      •  As bad as the Israeli government is now (3+ / 0-)
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        Eric Stratton, poco, Alexandre

        it is likely to be even worse in three weeks.  Maybe the Hagel appointment will shake some "soft" Likud voters by seriously worrying them about U.S. relations with an extreme right Israeli government.

        Chuck Hagel for Defense Secretary

        by Paleo on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 03:58:04 PM PST

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        •  Things will get worse before they get better. (4+ / 0-)
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          Paleo, Alexandre, Shane Hensinger, poco

          Which assumes they do get better. When people are more worried about Hagel somehow screwing over gay servicemen (which I don't see happening) that they are about the actual foreign policy implications of the SecDef nomination, I'd say they've pretty seriously lost the plot.

          Things are very dark in Israel now. Confirming Hagel needs to be a priority as a message to Likud, the neocons as well as the Arabs; that things have to change.

          You can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America.

          by Eric Stratton on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 04:14:15 PM PST

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      •  1000 time this. (1+ / 0-)
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        bevenro

        I'm pro-Israel in this discussion, so there is no misunderstanding. I find the one-state solution crowd maddening in their naivety.

        But the course Israel is on at present will lead to disaster. The policies of Likud are as self destructive for Israel as the Tea Party's policies are for the US. This three-state solution stuff is madness. It was untenable with Mubarak, but now it's a total non-starter.

        Israel's current policy towards the question of Palestinian Statehood is insane. It's like they're sawing off they're leg to treat a sprained ankle. The two-state solution is the only way out of this, and that message needs to be pounded into the heads of the Israeli public and their elected officials.

        You can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America.

        by Eric Stratton on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 04:10:58 PM PST

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