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  •  Well, that you think Andrew Sullivan (5+ / 0-)

    speaks for gay people does indicate that you are too straight for the conversation you've wandered into. (Hint: He's not popular with gay people.)

    "The marriage fight is over when we say it's over, and it's over when we win."—Dan Savage

    by Scott Wooledge on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 04:41:33 PM PST

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    •  Yes I realize that. I had no idea he was (2+ / 0-)
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      unpopular with gay people, I knew he is unpopular with the homophobes. I would think there would be more rallying around him, since as a prominent openly gay person he already has to deal with all the hate that's out there.

      •  We don't rally around tokens. (1+ / 0-)
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        Andrew Sullivan has about as much credibility among LGBTs as Clarence Thomas does among African-Americans.  Sullivan owes his position to the fact that he happens to be a gay man who willingly spouts the kind of conservative BS you typically find on Fox News.  For a long time, he was the only gay person you ever saw on television, even though his views were far to the right of most of us in the LGBT community.  

        The MSM loved him, because they could point to him and say, "See, here's a gay person who agrees with the right wing conventional wisdom!"  He was a token they were using as cover for their own homophobia.

        So no, most of us are not about to rally around him.  And as someone who actually knew him personally at one point, I can assure you he is no more appealing a human being in person than he is on the teeveee.

        "Ça c'est une chanson que j'aurais vraiment aimé ne pas avoir écrite." -- Barbara

        by FogCityJohn on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 05:16:28 PM PST

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