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  •  Seems like the Koch brothers GOT results. (18+ / 0-)

    They sure got themselves some hellacious tax cuts on Wednesday. Spent 3 billion, it probably paid off about 10 to one for them.

    To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

    by UntimelyRippd on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 09:51:17 PM PST

      •  Dad's Quote (3+ / 0-)
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        He claimed that the Democratic and Republican Parties were infiltrated by the Communist Party, and he supported Mussolini's suppression of communists. He wrote that "The colored man looms large in the Communist plan to take over America," and that public welfare was a secret plot to attract rural blacks and Puerto Ricans to Eastern cities to vote for Communist causes and "getting a vicious race war started.

        •  Get the whole quote. (0+ / 0-)

          Get the link.

          Get the info on the circumstances.

          Write the #$%^&^% diary, redo for copy editing accuracy, then publish it !!

          "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

          by bontemps2012 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 04:27:07 PM PST

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    •  At the beginning of August (17+ / 0-)

      every year there is a huge (biggest in the NE) farm equipment show in Seneca Co, upstate NY.

      Along with the giant John Deere tractors, the latest in milking parlors, the plowing demonstrations, Cornell Cooperative Extension, there is always a John Birch Society tent.

      We've managed to stay away.  But I'm sure they get plenty of TP types stopping by.  

      •  Please, go and collect their hand-outs. (19+ / 0-)

        Then come here with a diary that provides the text and images from what they are handing out.

        Any progressive fighting against their sub rosa candidates at the local level will be able to make use of these resources.

        Birchers are basically crazy. Paranoid and willing to share their fantasies, e.g. "birther madness."

        "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

        by bontemps2012 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 04:59:27 AM PST

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        •  We'll see about collecting garbage (1+ / 0-)
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          at the Farm Show - haven't gone in a couple of years.  Usually a day wallowing in the mud or dying in the mid-summer blast furnace.

          As for images of lit, they might be mostly covered with barf.

          I will say that the Democrats nationally have got to stop ceding the rural areas to the RePIGs & Conservatives.  It's a lot of hooey to shovel through, but they are well dug into the fabric of life around here.  

          One of the biggest problems is they are low information voters.  Not at all understanding the complexities of current economics, state of the union.  Very dependent upon FAUX  and other TV propaganda.  Daily newspapers from urban areas have long been dropped for affordability and delivery problems.  The weeklies with the Boy Scout troop news have begun to feel the pinch.  

          Plus, they are used to service.  Too many Democrats when they do get into office, do not give the kind of hand holding, personal attention and service the Republicans do.  

          There is virtually NO economics education in high schools.  Even my high school, in a suburb of Yale (so to speak), in the 1960's, had none.  Maybe some business majors get it in college.  Not much in the community colleges around here which provide the back bone of further education in this area.  

          I had to willfully take it when I went back to college in the 1980's.  Not considered to be part of liberal arts requirements, or sciences or computing.  I was probably the only Art History major in 101 & 102.

          So when you have people comparing the national debt to their own households, it's not unexpected.  Because if you don't understand that sometimes the pump has to be primed, your instinct is to say, "NO, I can't afford that dinner out with the head pooh-bah of the local manufacturing company, and I can't afford to buy a jacket to go."  

          "We can't afford more taxes to repair the broken bridge", not understanding that the money pumped into the economy turns over and multiplies.  

          "People will just have to continue a total of 4 miles down the road to the next bridge.  And I don't go that way much anyways."

          I used to think it was education - if people were just educated then they would understand.  What a Polly-anna I was!  Don't forget the negative thinking patterns are ingrained into family upbringing, religion, social networks.  And education is spit upon.

          During the 50's & '60's people with such educations were in control of the media.  We all know how that has changed.  

    •  The Koch brothers taxes probably went up (2+ / 0-)
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      Most of their income very likely comes as capital gains.  The tax on capital gains over $400K a year went up from 15% to 20%.

      We're all pretty strange one way or another; some of us just hide it better. "Normal" is a dryer setting.

      by david78209 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 10:28:08 AM PST

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      •  39.6% would have been more like it. (1+ / 0-)
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        It was 30% during Clinton's early years.

        "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

        by bontemps2012 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 10:40:58 AM PST

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        •  Briefly, under Reagan, there rates were equal (1+ / 0-)
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          Ronald Reagan was impressed with how the 92% income tax rate in WWII and the 1950's persuaded him not to bother making more than two movies a year.  He may also have been impressed that at the same time, the top rate on capital gains was much less.  
          He got Congress to eliminate the difference, briefly.  I think that lasted just two years.

          We're all pretty strange one way or another; some of us just hide it better. "Normal" is a dryer setting.

          by david78209 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 04:16:57 PM PST

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      •  No, the Koch brothers taxes went down. (3+ / 0-)
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        Prior to the bill's passage, their capital gains tax would have been much higher. They successfully locked in something like 3/4 of their once-temporary Bush tax cuts.

        As I said -- they're certainly getting their money's worth. They'll have made their 3 billion dollars back within 12 months. Everything after that will be gravy.

        To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

        by UntimelyRippd on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 02:12:40 PM PST

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