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  •  Actually, more like FOUR parties (3+ / 0-)
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    Splitting the Progressive Dems from the Business Dems, or the Democrats in the House and Senate who voted for or against the "cliff" bill.  

    (There weren't many Progressive ones.)  

    •  Because us going over the cliff would (2+ / 0-)
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      bontemps2012, vcmvo2

      be so pleasant for the poor and elderly that no good progressive wouldn't have supported us taking that path? This is a terrific example of the meme "my position is de facto the position, and the only position, of legitimate progressives".

    •  I guess that means (1+ / 0-)
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      bontemps2012

      Bernie Sanders isn't a progressive, then.

      "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

      by sidnora on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 12:34:08 PM PST

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      •  Uh, no, just agreeing with (1+ / 0-)
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        bontemps2012

        Sen. Harkin, and Reps. Xavier Becerra, Earl Blumenauer, Rose DeLauro, Jim McDermott, and Bobby Scott, on this.

        Making the Bush tax cuts permanent, and calling 450k a year "middle class," are not Progressive ideas.  But I understand it's hard to vote on the left when your party's president is a conservative, "business" Democrat, and publicly pushing the caucus right.  There are not many Dems willing to resist his pressure at this point.

        •  I heard Sanders explain his vote. (2+ / 0-)
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          He thinks it's a very bad piece of legislation, but he felt the alternative would have hurt poor and middle class people too badly to be acceptable. I can understand voting on principle, but I also understand keeping the people in mind. And Sanders has no reason to cave in to party pressure. He's not a Democrat.

          "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

          by sidnora on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 02:23:21 PM PST

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