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  •  Thanks, Ben. (3+ / 0-)
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    BeninSC, Dave in Northridge, cohenzee

    I rarely intentionally say anything without self-censorship, but that may be because I'm so old and slow I give up before I hit reply.  

    More: Some men think the Earth is round, others think it flat; it is a matter capable of question. But if it is flat, will the King's command make it round? And if it is round, will the King's command flatten it?

    by blueoasis on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 08:03:59 PM PST

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    •  Like you, I have the ... advantage(?) of age ... (3+ / 0-)

      And ... shall we say, lower hormonal pressures?

      I don't give up, and I don't self-censor, but I don't jump in where there is nothing to win, no way to make a real contribution. If the energy is very toxic, it may be regrettable, but it doesn't change the fact that there are infinite ways to help in our world, and turning to one of those may be the best response I can make. Even if those 'attending' the debacle will never know it.

      "The opposite of war isn't peace, it's CREATION." _ Jonathan Larson, RENT -9.62, -9.13

      by BeninSC on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 08:09:26 PM PST

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      •  Yes, exactly. (4+ / 0-)

        I never hesitate if I think my point is substantive and my position is usually clear without being abrasive or insulting.

        And I never interject in discussion when I don't know enough about the subject or positions in contention.  I really, seriously, don't understand anyone who does that unless it is just to support a friend or ally or to notch up the level of discord, but I don't always see that as being the case either.

        I also think civility can go too far but that's a more complex minefield than I want to tackle crossing through.

        More: Some men think the Earth is round, others think it flat; it is a matter capable of question. But if it is flat, will the King's command make it round? And if it is round, will the King's command flatten it?

        by blueoasis on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 08:23:24 PM PST

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        •  On supporting a friend ... one of the problems (3+ / 0-)

          with public comment threads (as much as I love them!) is that it can acquire a Christians v. Lions aspect, with people jumping in and taking sides, bringing their own baggage and hostile energy. Some things are best taken private, if one is serious about working toward understanding, as opposed to victory.

          "The opposite of war isn't peace, it's CREATION." _ Jonathan Larson, RENT -9.62, -9.13

          by BeninSC on Sat Jan 05, 2013 at 08:26:55 PM PST

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