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  •  Its a dodge (2+ / 0-)
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    OregonOak, radmul

    A diversion.  One of the commonly-wielded tools in the anti-gun control toolbox our precious little RKBA group carts around with them.

    From the 2004 presentation Trends and Rates in Methods of Suicide by Catherine Barber of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center:

    Why does gun availability matter?

    > Some suicide attempts are impulsive

    > Some occur during a crisis

    > If a gun is not available, nearly every other method substituted is less lethal

    > 90% of those who survive a nonfatal attempt do not go on to die by suicide (Owens, British J Psych, 2002; review of 90 studies of repetition of self-harm)

    >All US case control studies have indicated the presence of a gun is a risk factor for suicide

    The anti-gun control folks love to state that suicides don't count because they blithely pretend that all people who successfully commit suicide with a firearm would have done it just as readily and just as effectively and just as easily if they hadn't had access to a firearm, despite data to the contrary.  

    It's a similar dodge to pointing to the high firearm murder rate in cities such as Chicago or Washington DC.  How, they innocently and teasingly ask, is that possible when guns are so tightly regulated in those cities?

    As if those cities are islands unconnected to anywhere else in the nation with less stringent gun laws.

    I wonder: If they were to open up all the windows and doors in their house in subzero weather, would they also wonder why it's cold inside even though they have a top of the line furnace?

    •  Exactly. Its a 'shift of attention." (0+ / 0-)

      We are being asked not to care too much about suicide by gun, since, well, its self-inflicted and so therefore, victimless. Or something. They guy deserved it. Or something.

      I think its instructive that Ban Nock elected not to engage on this issue. A little push back goes a long way with these people.

      Thank you.

      Figures don't lie, but liars do figure-Mark Twain

      by OregonOak on Sun Jan 06, 2013 at 03:42:53 PM PST

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