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  •  Nobody cares about gerrymandering (2+ / 0-)
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    RVKU, Alibguy

    Sure, we do, but voters don't. That's been shown again and again in opinion polls and election results. Whining about it - however just, and it is certainly accurate - won't gain a single seat at any level.

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    by MichaelNY on Sun Jan 06, 2013 at 07:35:40 AM PST

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    •  This is why we lose - If Republicans lost Congress (1+ / 0-)
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      because of Gerrymandering - their echo chamber would be non-stop: Fox News would run 24 / 7, Conserve Radio would follow suit, Republicans would be on every cable news network and every Sunday show, and then they would demand to shut down the government until the process was made fair. Remember their outrage over "pork" or how every one of their politicians fight for recounts as if it were the end of the world? ... This is why we lose - a defeatist attitude and the inability to produce faux outrage based on injustice. We just accept the status quot.

      •  Yes, gerrymandering is why we lose (2+ / 0-)
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        jncca, GoUBears

        I'm not being "defeatist"; I'm being reality-based. No-one on either side of the aisle has ever won anything due to complaining about gerrymandering. It's inside baseball, and only political activists give a damn about it. If you think I'm wrong, give me one example of any official at any time in the history of the US who did win while making whining about gerrymandering the centerpiece of their campaign.

        The way to fight against Republican gerrymandering is to make sure Democrats have control of governorships and state legislatures in 2020 and push referenda for non-partisan redistricting such as happened in California in states where voter initiatives are possible. Otherwise, aside from some litigation in states like Texas, the districts are set, period, and elections will have to be won in spite of long odds due to gerrymandering.

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        by MichaelNY on Sun Jan 06, 2013 at 09:53:57 AM PST

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