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  •  So your suggestion (2+ / 0-)
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    seancdaug, lyvwyr101

    is usurping federalism and eliminating state police power. Which is probably the most radical and unworkable solution ever imagined. Can't happen and won't happen.

    Far more restrictive standing rules? Can you explain this?

    Also, if you admit that perfection can "only" be a goal, then you're admitting that our system will never be perfect. Implicit in this admission is the conclusion that you think an imperfect system is acceptable. Which leads to the conclusion that you believe the transaction cost of unjust killing is acceptable?

    But I'm more concerned with the first point mentioned here. Aside from destroying the fundamental right of states to handle criminal issues, how are you going to restrict standing? I'm not sure you know what that means. A person suing on his own behalf would almost certainly have standing.

    "I believe that, as long as there is plenty, poverty is evil." ~Bobby Kennedy

    by Grizzard on Sun Jan 06, 2013 at 10:52:21 AM PST

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    •  state power to kill (0+ / 0-)

      is not a power the constitution (IMO) should allow

       

      Out of my cold dead hands

      by bluelaser2 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 at 11:19:51 AM PST

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      •  I would say that for any State or state (1+ / 0-)
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        to execute people is barbaric.  Just moving it to the State, as in federal, level of power, does not make it any better.

        It gets on my nerves, and you know how I am about my nerves...

        by ciganka on Sun Jan 06, 2013 at 11:26:15 AM PST

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      •  What? (0+ / 0-)

        So you support the power of the federal government to kill? But not the states?

        I think it's pretty well established that states have the Constitutional power to determine what is a crime and how they want to punish that crime.

        I'm not sure how one can get to the conclusion that the federal government has the power to kill but not the state governments.

        I agree that states should not have the power to kill under the constitution. I'm just not sure how you jump from that to allowing the federal government the same power. This is incomprehensible under all constitutional doctrine that I know of.

        "I believe that, as long as there is plenty, poverty is evil." ~Bobby Kennedy

        by Grizzard on Sun Jan 06, 2013 at 11:28:16 AM PST

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