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  •  Roosevelt was progressive (3+ / 0-)
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    sawolf, MichaelNY, bumiputera

    But he still governed a Republican Party that was dominated by archconservatives like Henry Cabot Lodge and Nelson Aldrich. He got some things through, but he struck a bit of a middle course.

    TR was the most liberal, radical candidate on the ballot in 1912, and sometimes people let that bleed retrospectively into appraisals of his performance as president. It wasn't bad considering the times, but he was no Wilson.

    •  Exactly, and this is what I meant by (1+ / 0-)
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      NMLib

      Roosevelt administration and Wilson era.  These people weren't divorced from their parties even if they did have leeway on some issues.  It would have been interesting to see what Roosevelt would have done with a Democratic Congress (Wilson with a Republican Congress would have just seen regressive civil rights policies, but not much in the way of progress other than the courts).

      However, Personal values really don't mean that much in the grand scope of things if they bear no relation to the actual policy actions of the party.  This is why I hope that in the future, Bill Clinton's stock plummets among the left, as his most lasting impact is going to be Welfare Reform and helping Republicans blow up our trade deficit (which was the prime cause of the housing bubble, though not the sole cause obviously).  Not that he wasn't worlds better than what a Dole administration would have been, but Clinton is certainly no Kennedy.  Obama is our Kennedy.

      NC-06/NC-04; -9.12, -8.62; Yellow Dog Democrat

      by sawolf on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 01:11:47 PM PST

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    •  Well, save for Eugene Debs (4+ / 0-)
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      sawolf, MichaelNY, jncca, bumiputera

      Who got 6% of the vote that year.

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