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  •  And yet the "Amendment" was bestowed (0+ / 0-)

    by our society adopting it.  Right?  So, in that sense it is a right bestowed by society.

    My quibble with Leftie Gunner's comment is in the apparent assumption that rights can exist independent of "a privilige granted by government".  If government is equated with society, I think that's erroneous.

    •  No, it wasn't. (4+ / 0-)

      There was not going to be a Constitution without an enumeration of those things called the Bill of Rights. There were those that thought the Constitution did not recognize the rights the People inherently held. Therefore they were enumerated so as to be specifically understood.
       According to the Supreme Court their are reasonable restrictions that can be voted into law concerning those rights. But those restrictions cannot place undue burden on the basic Right.

      "The United States is a nation of laws: badly written and randomly enforced." -Zappa My Site

      by meagert on Sun Jan 06, 2013 at 07:22:50 PM PST

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      •  Undue burden (1+ / 0-)
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        Miggles

        Therein is the crux of the matter.

        What is an undue burden?  Registration of all firearms in your possession, is that a burden?

        What bothers me greatly is the fact that those who cannot pass a background check have easy access to guns, say criminals and gangbangers and these  weapons are either stolen or bought in the secondary market.

        Lets say you buy a gun legally from a dealer then you walk out of the store and then decide to sell it to someone else without a background check.  

        It's like "fast and furious" gun walking is done everyday via "straw purchases."  How can this ever be stopped?  

        And how can so many guns be stolen?  I don't get this at all.

        •  Democracy ain't easy. (2+ / 0-)
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          theatre goon, KVoimakas

          With 300,000 million guns out there, criminals will get guns. The horses have left the barn.
           (And don't forget, anyone who is involved in a straw purchase is breaking an already existing law.)
          That's why I suggest quicker, more effective and easier solutions. Better funding for  Mental Health, single payer, liveable wages,end the drug war, yada, yada, yada. Lots of People don't want to hear that. They just want to do something NOW, hoping to make this all go away. I don't believe they are right.

          "The United States is a nation of laws: badly written and randomly enforced." -Zappa My Site

          by meagert on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 01:58:35 AM PST

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