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  •  McKibben's view is that what the president... (9+ / 0-)

    ...can do, in the absence of that Democratic Congress, he's not doing or not doing enough of. The president needs to push the envelope because climate crisis needs to be treated like World War II, a matter of survival.

    And let's not kid ourselves, while the denialists are mostly on the other side of aisle, we've got a very good governor in Montana still pushing for using coal (or exporting it) and favoring the Keystone XL pipeline. We have a new senator from North Dakota favoring the pipeline even though her election margin was provided by Indian voters in her state who oppose Keystone. So, it's more than just getting a Democratic Congress, although our mission of getting better Democrats there would surely help.

    The key point is that we have wasted 35 years in getting clean renewables and conservation further developed, 25 years wasted since Jim Hansen first warned us and 4 years of the best chance for changing this. We don't have that many years left before the devastation we've pretended isn't coming overwhelms us. It may already be too late, but we should take action now in case it's not because someday it definitely will be.

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Sun Jan 06, 2013 at 11:59:33 PM PST

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    •  Yet we are at 20 yr low in energy emissions (0+ / 0-)

      Yes, we can do better.  And, yes, we have squandered decades, although I would argue the technologies (except for nuclear) were not really available/ready on renewables 30-40 years ago.

      But this past year, our energy department announced we are at a 20 year low in CO2 output from energy production - simply because we have moved many dirty coal plants to using natural gas.  And that because of the plentiful supply.

      Yet we prefer to bury those numbers because it doesn't comply with the only-renewables-can-save-us meme.  Had we had a massive national project of building nuke plants 40 years ago, the US would be a leader in clean energy production.. but, no.. it doesn't fit the meme.

      I sometimes wonder if progressives even care about the real CO2 output numbers, as opposed to how much new energy generation we have per year from renewables.  It is almost as if we have lost sight of the forest for the trees.

      Yes.. we need to do a lot more.  But this is not a US only problem.  We need to take a hard look at the countries spewing CO2 and lots more into the atmosphere.. countries actually increasing their output each year, who seem to get a pass on the responsibility end.. it's always seems to be America's responsibility to do more and more and more.

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