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  •  Yep. I am now going to be getting into the (4+ / 0-)
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    most expensive part. Like it or not, it's got to be done both for my sanity and for the environment.

    Given I live in an oak woodland, essentially, and my roof is about 1/2 to 2/3 oak covered, solar isn't possible for me. So efficiency is the ticket for me.

    My neighbors across the way, OTOH, leave at least six outside lights on all night (beware, zombies!) and often forget to even turn them off during the day. They have a wazoo of kids with kids now and are completely mindless about anything environment. It's breathtaking, really, to see that level of uncaring and, perhaps, stupidity.

    202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

    by cany on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 12:05:51 AM PST

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    •  sorry to hear about your neighbors (1+ / 0-)
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      it's frustrating to have people so utterly oblivious and unconscious, especially people with children. And the tough thing is that you can't give them shit for it, because the natural knee-jerk reaction usually is to spite you and turn on even more lights. Probably the best weapon you have is to just lead by example, and perhaps casually point out all $$$ you save by insulating your house and turning the lights off at night.

      •  Sadly, we don't even talk anymore. I have had it (1+ / 0-)
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        with the leaking septic tank of theirs, the illegal apartment, driving like a bat out of hell on a steep one-car-wide street and the damn lights.

        I'm afraid if I said something I would eventually lose my mind and start down the litany of issues. It's really the wife. The husband is just oblivious.

        202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

        by cany on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 12:24:12 AM PST

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