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  •  I thought I was pretty clear back there. (0+ / 0-)
    ... a broader response is needed than just stopping the future sale of some types of guns.
    Yea I covered a broader response, my answer is an And-if, not an either-or.

    The reasoning promoted for why people want to keep weapons with high capacity rounds, could also be used to justify the collection of explosive devices or vials of deadly pathogens.

    Guns are for defense, target practice, and hunting.

    If you need that many bullets for any of those three things, then perhaps you don't really need one at all because you are either blind or over eager.  

    I am lucky, I can keep my kids at home. There are millions of other Americans who are not in position to make that call, and probably just as many who wouldn't want to. And even then, we have to leave the house some time.

    Why is this happening now? Well in the old days when most people had bolt action rifles and shotguns, or just plain old six shooters, it was more difficult for them to spray innocent unsuspecting civilians in a rapid manner with a large number of bullets.

    Speed Loaders are a helluva a lot more bulky than clips.

    Any death in this manner is unacceptable, but leaving ourselves open to be attacked by nutcases with guns that can fire more than a couple of bullets without reloading, makes absolutely no tactical sense whatsoever.

    I know that only gun owners are supposed to think of tactics, but the funny thing is, non gun owners are totally allowed to take that word and use it too.

    If you really need more than a couple of bullets to defend yourself from enemies, then you either need to work on your people skills, or move.

    Post 1980, people started organizing in large numbers, preparing for one of the following with guns: Race War, Apocalypse, Foreign Invasions, or Coup by various groups believed to be ring leaders in various consipiracy theories--it's a multiple choice test--Jewish folks, NATO, Commies, Satanists, etc., {and no I don't believe in any of this crapola]

    The NRA sided with these people and fed these deep seated fears-- see Ruby Ridge for starters. When 911 happened, it near about pushed them all over the edge. The GOP decided it could use this fear to win them votes, and it did for a short period of time. But neither the NRA nor the GOP can control this deadly narrative, that they have taken so much time to cultivate with religious nationalism and fearful conspiracies.

    The people in these groups are so fearful, they cannot distinguish their friends from their enemies. Is that who you want armed with high capacity weapons? Many want to secede from the Union every time something doesn't go their way, and by their way, I mean every time legislation or national consensus doesn't reflect their bigotry. They carry guns openly to political rallies, to intimidate voters who disagree with their positions.  Because of them, we are so busy watching their antics, that we have to divide our resources between them and a genuine corporate enemy. These people are lose cannons. And their fear mongering periodically results in some fringe adherent going nuts and killing fellow citizens, because they cannot take the self inflicted pressure.

    If the NRA and the GOP, and the Gun Community are incapable of policing it's own behavior, and it's own communities, then someone has to do it for sanity's sake. No matter how responsible I might be, my example is a silent one. No news is good news in this case. So that means the worst make a name for us, and have they ever! And the response from the NRA--More Guns! Not better, more affordable health care screenings for mental health conditions, not raising the age that one can buy a gun, not hiring more police officers, or reconsidering the kinds of guns that are the issue, but no--More guns for everyone! Lets have a gun extravaganza!

    Now we have nutcases with guns, wearing body armor attacking people in public venues. Their [NRA-GOP] answer--Not forbiding civilians from getting body armor, but no--More Guns! Lets arm teachers and and everyone, so we can have wild west shoot out every time someone farts on the bus.

    I have a shotgun. I use it to control varmits.  But for shit's sake, do you mean to tell me I will have to buy thousands of dollars in body armor for me and the kids, and an automatic pistol with a huge clip, just to go to the grocery store or the library? Or the Park? Just in case I have to deal with a crazed shooter?

    We have laws in place that are supposed to prevent nut cases from getting guns, but they work haphazardly. We don't take care of our people, we don't screen them, and then we expect the members of these groups mentioned before, to detect someone slightly more nuts than they are and make the call.

    You can blame this all on parenting, but since there isn't a whole lot we can do about that, then the answer seems pretty clear. Limit access to High Capacity weapons.

    I wish I could say I knew we could do something about mental health in this country too, but I don't have much hope for that. Hell we can't even take care of our own vets, much less look after our own civilian population. And you think we--as a nation are responsible enough to be armed to the teeth?

    America doesn't seem to know the difference between a Warrior Code and a Bully Culture. Maybe we don't deserve to be armed.

    And words at this point are meaningless for a response. If you want to be right, then you and thousands of other Americans need to go out and put your money where your mouth is, make it right.

    I don't want to hear what you think you can do. I want you all to show me and everyone else that you and others are responsible citizens who are committed to contributing to a greater communal good.

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