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  •  WHO promoted the invasion of Iraq? (1+ / 1-)
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    You make accusations based on vague statements in order to duck and  ignore the facts.

    1) Bush and Cheney:  check
    2) Foundation for Defense of Democracy --funded by Israel Lobby billionaires: check
    3) Judith Miller of the New York Times and the Times publisher?  Check
    4) The Neocon propagandists cited by Thomas Friedman in the Haaretz interview :  Check.   Tom said the war would not have occurred if not for their propaganda.  And while Haaretz noted that most of them are Jewish, I noted that they live off the charity --and hence are owned by -- right wing Gentile billionaires Rupert Murdoch and Phillip Anschutz.
    5) Kenneth Pollack , employed by Israeli billionaire Haim Saban:  Check
    I can give you several liberal commentators who all testify that they supported the invasion because they trusted Pollack
    6) Fox NEws: check

    And if you look at the Sept 2007 Haaretz interview of Haim Saban, he stated explicitly that he feels it is his duty to use his billions to influence US politics and ensure that the USA continues to protect Israel.   But , like Sheldon Adelson, I see no where in which Haim says he has a duty to America.

    I never said J Street was involved in promoting the war -- in fact, I noted that George Soros funded the opposition.  So why did you make that false accusation?

    •  You keep talking about the Israel Lobby (2+ / 0-)

      which J Street is part of. Don't try to weasel out.

      Did a few billionaires support and cheer for the war with Iraq? Whoever said they didn't? Show me one place where I claimed they didn't? Just one.

      A lot of other people than the ones you noted promoted War with Iraq as well. But you only keep talking about Haim Saban and Sheldon Adelson. I wonder why? Well... no really I don't.

      As for this:

      But , like Sheldon Adelson, I see no where in which Haim says he has a duty to America.
      WTF... Jewish Billionaires now need to swear loyalty oaths. Do you demand that of any other billionaires out there or just Jews?

      The fact of the matter is that there were a lot of factors that led up to the Iraq War, but, it "the Lobby" did not force ANYONE into a war. If anyone did it was Conservatives led by George Bush and Dick Cheney.

      And again: - what does this have to do with Chuck Hagel and support for the nomination of a conservative Republican by a Democratic President?

      Right... it has nothing to do with it.

      "'Touch it dude' - President Barack Obama"

      by volleyboy1 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 01:34:20 PM PST

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