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  •  I also found it interesting (1+ / 0-)
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    that one of the Pinterest shots was of a woman in a headscarf. Do women who dress "apostolically" feel any kinship with Muslim women? I'd be surprised, even though the parallels are pretty obvious.

    "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

    by sidnora on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 05:09:45 PM PST

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    •  The female Catholic Saints (0+ / 0-)

      ...are dressed like Muslims. And "Kosher casual" seems to stock similar lines. Mormon clothing, as well. Hijab is trying to be fashionista, but I think modest clothing is on the rise in general. Even Land's End markets in that nitch.



      Denial is a drug.

      by Pluto on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 06:00:30 PM PST

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      •  There are distinctions (1+ / 0-)
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        between these styles of dress, though.

        Because I live in NYC (and work in the jewelry district), I get to see lots of Orthodox Jewish woman, and a fair number of observant Muslim women, too.

        There was almost nothing on that Pinterest that I could imagine an Orthodox (Chasidic) woman wearing. They tend to choose very tailored clothing, conservative in every way - color, fabric, embellishment (lack of), as well as modesty issues. Hosiery is often opaque, and may even have seams. Very little or no makeup, but some serious jewelry if they can afford it. Married women wear wigs. Shoes are strictly sensible.

        "Modern Orthodox" women dress pretty much like anyone else except they cover up - so, a long denim skirt instead of jeans, and a head covering, but otherwise nothing I wouldn't wear. Also not the frilly, heavily-embellished ultra-feminine look in the Pinterest. Think "she shopped at the Gap" and you'll get the idea. Little or no makeup or jewellery. Shoes are as likely to be sneakers as anything else.

        Observant Muslim women tend to run the gamut, partly because many of them are also first-generation immigrants who haven't yet abandoned their home country's dress, so, you get everything from Pakistani women wearing salwaar-kameez in wonderful prints and colors, with a coordinated headscarf casually draped, to women in nearly full burqa (I don't think I've ever seen a woman here with her eyes covered). But lots of young Muslim women dress pretty much like everyone else, jeans casual, long sleeves, and add a headscarf. Makeup and jewellery are both much worn, if visible. One major difference between them and the Jewish women is that they often wear jeans - no orthodox Jewish woman (or even a little girl) would ever wear pants of any kind.

        And almost no one wears those extreme shoes here, religious or not; occasionally you'll see a young woman who might be a model, or model wannabe, teetering along, but we're a city of walkers, even the most fashionable among us.

        "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

        by sidnora on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 09:23:01 AM PST

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