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  •  That is easy for some to say (3+ / 0-)

    Coastal communities have a history, with many roots that go with families and with ties to the land, some of which involved real estate and real accrued wealth, such in legacy farming.

    People can't just shrug their shoulders and walk off.  

    hope that the idiots who have no constructive and creative solutions but only look to tear down will not win the day.

    by Stuart Heady on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 04:46:21 PM PST

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    •  I know I live in a coastal community. (2+ / 0-)
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      wrote about the subject in this diary with Norfolk as the example.

      http://www.dailykos.com/...

      It's only realistic that it will be impossible to adapt some coastal communities and they will have to be abandoned.  Too costly and impractical.  

      Macca's Meatless Monday

      by VL Baker on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 05:04:00 PM PST

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      •  A lot of people seem to think it is easy (2+ / 0-)
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        From the comments, not a lot of people actually have responsibilities or community relationships that are extensive and which are about stewardship of real things.  

        I think the problem is that much of the discussion is aimed at people for whom the concept of moving coastal communities is pretty easy because they have no ties that would be difficult to unbind.  

        The real discussion that needs to be had is that which involves the decisionmakers on the average city council. school board, or even in the Chamber of Commerce.    

        The tenor and the tone of most of these discussions is that those who don't easily come to an agreement with the leading edge in the interpretation of climate science are not worth talking to.  

        I think that is part of the reason why there is so much resistance out there.  

        We have to get past that somehow and engage people in a serious discussion about what to do about real plans for building new buildings, creating building standards for coastal areas, raising roadbeds or building up better berms and dikes.  There will be big resistance when the bottom line comes up and it turns out these things will cost millions.  

        hope that the idiots who have no constructive and creative solutions but only look to tear down will not win the day.

        by Stuart Heady on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 06:48:03 PM PST

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    •  The same could be said (10+ / 0-)

      for communities now undergoing desertification. Everyone has emotional and other investments somewhere. But we are going to be jerked out of our comfort zones wherever we live. It is better that we start preparing ourselves, psychologically and practically, as well as we can, for the turbulent changes approaching.

    •  not as long as FEMA keeps rebuilding their homes (3+ / 0-)

      There are already some places in this country that have been hit with flooding and hurricanes so many times over the past 40 years that it seems rather ridiculous to keep covering them after every new weather event.  At some point, before another disaster, the government needs to draw the line in some places and tell people "live here, moving forward, at your own risk."

      Oregon: Sure...it's cold. But it's a damp cold.

      by Keith930 on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 06:30:07 PM PST

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    •  Walk or drown. (0+ / 0-)
      People can't just shrug their shoulders and walk off.

      Renewable energy brings national global security.     

      by Calamity Jean on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 03:23:12 AM PST

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