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  •  So what's your solution? (0+ / 0-)

    Seriously... what's the realistic answer?

    Nuclear is not perfect, but it's pretty clean and orders of magnitude better than coal.

    What other option is there to build us a bridge to renewables or maybe even fusion?

    Generating our baseline load is feasible with nuclear and I see no other option we can use that won't destroy the planet

    •  you're griping at the wrong person (2+ / 0-)
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      BYw, Egalitare

      As I noted before, it's not environmentalists who killed nukes---it was the electric industry itself. Economically, nukes are a nonstarter. They can't get any private investors to finance them, and they can't get any private insurance companies to cover their liability. If it weren't for all the corporate welfare, the game would have ended decades ago.

      Oh, and for those of us who are in love with the thorium vaporware, I simply point out that no electric company, anywhere, is even asking to build a thorium plant.  None.  Not a one. Once again it is the electric companies who are shooting you down, not the environmentalists.

      (BTW, uranium mining is one of the most destructive activities that humans do.)

      •  Wrong yet again. (0+ / 0-)

        Roughly a third of uranium world wide is mined in conjunction with other operations whose primary focus is extracting minerals like copper and gold such as the Olympic Dam mine in Australia. The incremental environmental effects of extracting the uranium (versus leaving it in the tailings) is all but nonexistent. Roughly a third is extracted through a technique called in situ leaching that involves drilling small wells to dissolve and extract the ore. Compared to conventional mining techniques used to obtain other minerals it is fairly benign. It is the primary method used in the US. Only about a third is mined conventionally world wide and it isn't any more damaging than equivalent operations used to mine copper or other ores.

    •  a big part of the solution would be for the US to (0+ / 0-)

      reduce its per capita electricity usage to the levels in Japan, France, Germany or the UK.

      As in everything else, the US is fat, wasteful, profligate and bloated.

    •  Clean coal-IGCC has the CO2 emissions of natural (0+ / 0-)

      gas by EPA fiat. Nuclear is a nightmare waiting to happen,
      not to mention the radioactive waste which Reagan thought you could put under a desk. The decommisioning cost of nuclear are huge.

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