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  •  Australia bought back 600,000 semi-autos. (8+ / 0-)

    They still have 2-million bolts, levers and revolvers in private homes, all registered.

    Mass murders all but disappeared.

    Suicides and homicides dropped by more than half.

    Australia took two weeks to figure out its National Firearms Agreement. The terms do not conflict with the text of our 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

    How Australia Eliminated Gun Massacres. A New Position for the Democratic Party

    Keeping paranoid schizophrenics away from guns eliminates the mass murders. Keeping criminals away from militarized guns -- by eliminating militarized guns -- eliminates the bulk of crime-related homicides.

    Hell, folks, the Aussies even tested it out for us.

    Kelvin Thomson:

    This is a letter I have written to members of the United States Congress urging them to adopt Australia’s gun laws:

    As a Member of the Australian Parliament I am writing to urge you to adopt Australia’s gun laws in the United States.

    I am aware of the risk of advice from outsiders being unwelcome, but feel compelled to write all the same because

            1. We cannot sit idly by and just allow senseless and avoidable deaths, in this case including 20 small children, to go on, and
            2. Australia’s experience is crystal clear and I believe the United States can benefit from it.

            After 35 people, including small children, were killed in the Australian island State of Tasmania in April, 1996, the Australian Police Ministers Council agreed to a national plan for the regulation of firearms.  The Plan is known as the National Firearms Agreement and its terms include:

            •Banning military style automatic and semi-automatic firearms;
            •Limiting the availability of non-military style semi-automatic rifles and shotguns to primary producers, professional vermin exterminators, and a limited class of clay target firearm users;
            •Introducing registration for all firearms, including longarms;
            •Grouping firearms into 5 broad licensing categories;
            •Requiring all licence applicants to establish a genuine reason for firearms ownership;
            •Requiring all licence applicants other than those applying for category A firearms to establish that they have a special need for the particular category of firearm;
            •Requiring that permits be acquired for every new firearm purchase, with the issue of a permit to be subject to a waiting period of at least 28 days to enable appropriate checks to be made;
            •Stricter storage requirements for all firearms; and
            •Requiring all sales to be conducted by or through licensed firearms dealers.

    Since these laws were enacted in 1996 Australia has not had a repeat of the massacres we had before they came into effect.

    The number of gun deaths in all categories – homicides, suicides, and accidental shootings – has declined dramatically since 1996, and thousands of Australian lives have been saved as a result. ....

    "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

    by bontemps2012 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 02:42:59 PM PST

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    •  that is 2.6 million total guns in Australia.... (2+ / 0-)
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      FrankRose, bontemps2012

      Here we are dealing with 310 million firearms in the possession of American citizens and so that is almost 120 times as many guns in our population than in Australia.  

      Also we have a Constitutional right to have them and in order to do what Australia did in that way and with that severity, we would most likely have to change that same Constitution....that would mean that 2/3 of Congress and 2/3 of the states would have to agree. Won't happen.

      A buy back program for 310 million weapons would easily cost 31,000,000,000....that's 31 billion dollars, even if you just gave 100 dollars a piece for each one....but and even yet, the same gun would be worth 10 times the amount on the street, in the event of a ban.

      Different countries and totally different circumstances.

      •  Try $6-billion. Maybe $10-BB. (0+ / 0-)

        What they bought back were the militarized, fantasy-looking weapons.

        What's that, an American month of dog food ?

        "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

        by bontemps2012 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 03:43:37 AM PST

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