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  •  Best Picture (9+ / 0-)


    beasts of southern wild
    silv linings playbook
    le mis
    life of pi
    django unchained

    Get ready for the protests.

    "Justice is a commodity"

    by joanneleon on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 05:46:55 AM PST

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    •  Michael Moore (8+ / 0-)

      takes a different stance on ZDT:

      And here, I think Moore really blows it.  I am a woman.  Don't exploit women's issues in order to defend your Hollywood director friend, Michael Moore. Who cares if it is about a woman, directed by a woman? That has absolutely nothing to do with the issue at hand.  It is an exploitation of women's issues in order to try to get people to agree with you.  That's really low.

      Anyway, I've read just about every review and article about this film.  I believe that Michael Moore is going at this from the perspective of 1) a Hollywood insider and 2) a very informed voter.  I'm not worried about that group of people.  I'm worried about the low information voter whom this propaganda is aimed at.  Most of the time I agree with Michael Moore but sometimes I vehemently disagree with him and/or his actions.  This is one of those times.

      "Justice is a commodity"

      by joanneleon on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 05:55:41 AM PST

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    •  I predict (6+ / 0-)

      Lincoln wins and I haven't even seen it. :)

      The only one I've seen is Argo. It was very good, but I just don't think it will make it.

      I want to see a few more before the Awards, but the violence in ZDT and Django is giving me pause, so not sure I will. I want to see them, but...

      •  I'm going to go see (10+ / 0-)

        Zero Dark Thirty soon. I don't know how I will get through the torture scenes.  I'm really not good with any kind of violence in films.  But I need to see it for myself.

        I plan to try to watch it from two perpectives, my own and the perspective of a low info voter, perhaps an impressionable young low info voter, who I am most worried about re: this film.  Young people who grow up with the idea that torture is a an effective necessary evil -- that's a really dangerous proposition.  I also need to have some serious talks with my kids about it. This is insidious.

        "Justice is a commodity"

        by joanneleon on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 06:51:55 AM PST

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        •  The director has a record of propaganda movies (3+ / 0-)
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          since her "Hurt Locker" was a recruitment film.

          ❧To thine ownself be true

          by Agathena on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 09:19:58 AM PST

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        •  Here's what Amnesty Internattional USA says (1+ / 0-)
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          3 Things You Should Know About “Zero Dark Thirty” and Torture

          1. It's a movie not a documentary. [although Bigelow, the director in interviews talks about it as if it were a documentary. When questioned about the torture on Charlie Rose interview, she immediately said "the enhanced interrogation."]

          2. Torture did not help find Osama bin Laden.
          This is established by the public record and verified by people who have access to classified information. For example, yesterday, Senator John McCain (R-AZ), Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and Senator Carl Levin (D-MI) sent this letter to the head of Sony Entertainment with citations pointing out that torture and other abuses did not help find Osama bin Laden.

          3. The most important point is this: torture is immoral, always unlawful, and never permitted.
           Torture and ill-treatment are unequivocally prohibited under the U.S. Constitution and under international law. No derogation or exceptional circumstances can be invoked as justification for torture or ill-treatment

          Furthermore, the movie makes the Special Ops who told Boal "we do this everyday" into heroes. There's no question about that, Boal was an imbedded journalist in Iraq, he is in awe of the Special Ops who get into helicopters and search and kill suspected terrorists "every day."

          ❧To thine ownself be true

          by Agathena on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 09:49:57 AM PST

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