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  •  Please place that statement in the full context... (5+ / 0-)

    I was going with the logic of the rape culture that leads us to that question.  I then clearly stated, "Men should be pissed about this."

    Either way it is BAD.  

    But the logic of the rape culture puts the blame & responsibility for rape fully into the hands of women, which means that men have none at all.

    In a mature society, that is illogical and absurd no matter who you are talking about.

    •  There's no good context for a comment like that (4+ / 0-)
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      slothlax, Sparhawk, hmi, Dr Swig Mcjigger

      This is a topic that steams me for a few reasons.

      1. i don't believe that we live in a culture that supports rape.. but where rape does happen too often. The fact is that I believe that rape is probably the least tolerated crime in America. Ask any man in this country and most would rather be accused of murder than rape.

      2. VAWA was a law that went too far in a couple places. The one that most comes to mind is the "predominant aggressor" policy which really just says "arrest the man" no matter if he didn't start the violence or even if there is no evidence of violence all but she fears violence in the future.

      The other way that it steams me is the the rape shield policy. For those who don't know "rape shield" protects rape victim's name's and/or faces from being shown in the media. That's not what steams me. That's a great policy. What steams me is that it doesn't shield the face/name of the accused also. Anytime the identity of a victim needs to be protected because of the nature of the crime or the nature of the victim the accused should also be protected until found guilty.

      3. There's an undertone in the article when talking about impaired consent that intercourse is something that a man does to a woman and that women are passive objects in sex. What steams me about that is that even if both people are equally impared the rape accusation only goes toward the man.

      •  I agree with the diarist (3+ / 0-)

        I read the same comment you objected to and, perhaps because I have drawn the same conclusion, I fully understood what the diarist was saying.  Blaming women for getting raped or sexually assaulted implies that men are animals incapable of controlling themselves.  The diarist was saying how absurd such an idea is.

        On another note, I agree with point 1, rape is a horrific crime that no man wants to be accused of and I think adds to impetus for people to find excuses for sexual assault rather than admit that someone they know could actually do such a thing.  Easier to blame the victim for the non-criminal behavior of being a slut than admit you are friends with/related to a rapist.

        There is truth on all sides. The question is how much.

        by slothlax on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 05:34:48 PM PST

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    •  your context is misleading (1+ / 0-)
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      Dr Swig Mcjigger

      especially when you mention the men you know who aren't like that.  It comes off, "I have friends who are black", etc.

      I agree with your main point and wish you hadn't diluted it with sexist hyperbole.

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