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  •  Wait, "devolve into tyranny", right? (2+ / 0-)
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    oldpunk, PavePusher

    Why would they devolve into what they already have?  They have a divine sovereign and they are still subjects, are they not?

    I think you're missing a point here or two.

    Their sovereign is still in total control there. Their government officials still swear an oath to her, to this day.

    The comparisons begin and end there, don't they?

    Our unitary executive hasn't been put back into the box, has he?

    The concentration of authority into less and less hands still is occurring, is it not?

    DHS is still alive and well, right?  

    One of the things that prevented us from becoming a military dictatorship was the diffusion of power throughout the country.  From municipality, to village, to town, to city to county to State.  

    Those barriers are almost gone through Federalization and the rise of the American Police State.

    1. Indefinite military detentions of U.S. citizens

    2. Targeting U.S. citizens for killing

    3. Arresting witnesses for recording police actions

    4. Using GPS to track your every move

    5. Surveillance drones spying on American soil

    Maybe you need to watch this:

    Naomi Wolf's, End of America.

    -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

    by gerrilea on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 09:35:05 AM PST

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    •  Maybe... (0+ / 0-)

      ...you need to put down Soldier of Fortune or whatever it is you read and learn a little bit about the world.

      Why would they devolve into what they already have?  They have a divine sovereign and they are still subjects, are they not?

      I think you're missing a point here or two.

      Their sovereign is still in total control there. Their government officials still swear an oath to her, to this day.

      HMQ doesn't actually have 'total control'. The standard formulation is that she 'reigns, but does not rule'. In the UK, parliament, not the monarch, is sovereign. Technically, it's called The Crown in Parliament, both houses acting under Royal Assent, which hasn't been denied since 1747, IIRC. In practice, that means the House of Commons, by and large. Which is an elected body acting through a Prime Minister and his or her cabinet. There are more subtleties, but those are the basics.

      The Queen is the head of state, not of the government. It is called Her Majesty's Government or HMG, of course. HM even has a web site, which you might want to consult before you opine further.

      All told, though, this is frankly one of the stupidest things I've ever read on this site. Stunning.

      They're not "assault weapons"; just call them "Freedom Sparklers".

      by MBNYC on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 10:02:01 AM PST

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      •  Sweet, compliments will get you no where with me. (3+ / 0-)
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        KenBee, oldpunk, PavePusher

        I'm not that easy.

        ;)

        Does she approve of her governments agenda each and every year? Yes.

        She does appoint the Prime Minister.

        She can dissolve parliament if she so desires.

        http://suite101.com/...

        The best assessment of the Royal Prerogative would seem to be that it still exists, although it is rarely exercised. I ask for Bagehot’s pardon, but the idea that the Queen holds real potential power cannot be easily dismissed.

        Just because she many not exercise it, does not mean she cannot or that if is she did there would be a revolution.

        The power is still there, ignore it if you will, I don't.

        -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

        by gerrilea on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 10:22:26 AM PST

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        •  Yeah, I'm sorry. (2+ / 0-)
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          gerrilea, oldpunk

          I didn't mean to be rude, and I apologize for that.

          That said, you don't understand how the UK government works. Some residual powers aside, The Queen can't act unless at the advice of Her ministers. That's nowhere spelled out in a document like our constitution and very much a matter of precedent, tradition and what not else, and she's certainly personally popular, but it's nowhere near what you claimed.

          Anyway. It's been lovely, but I'm out of a job if I spend too much more time here :-)

          They're not "assault weapons"; just call them "Freedom Sparklers".

          by MBNYC on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 10:53:12 AM PST

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