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  •  I was thinking of those people who (4+ / 0-)

    propose a ban that will not pass (here on DK). Reality based?

    I was thinking of those people who think a ban would solve the problem. Reality based?

    I was thinking of those people who think registration would fix the issue so we should register all firearms. Reality based?

    I was thinking of the diary that was a blatant lie (I think from last night?) about a bear and firearms on a military base. Yet, it made the reclist even after it was pointed out that it was fictionally based on data that the author provided. Reality based?

    I was thinking of the IT'S THE GUNS mantra that keeps popping up yet in the '50s you could get a 'high capacity assault weapon' with no background checks. Hell you could have one delivered to your HOUSE with no background check. Why didn't we have school shootings back then? (Not that I'm saying I want to return to the 50s; I don't). Reality based?

    I was thinking of the RKBA = NRA based bullshit that I keep seeing here. Yet, when we repeatedly say we are not, it keeps being brought up. Reality based?

    Is reality subjective?

    Republicans cause more damage than guns ever will. Share Our Wealth

    by KVoimakas on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 08:42:20 AM PST

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    •  We did have school shootings (3+ / 0-)
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      in the 1950s. There was one in my father's school, in fact, in the '50s. Reality based?

      I could nitpick the rest of your stuff, but regardless.

      You want to sneer at the entire DKos community based on your perceived failings of a few, that's your business. But I recommend you choose your words a bit more carefully, particularly if you think yourself the one in the room who is, in actuality, "reality-based."

      We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another. -- Jonathan Swift

      by raptavio on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 08:56:24 AM PST

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      •  Oh, I find huge chunks of DK are reality based. (3+ / 0-)

        The gun control issue? Not so much.

        So we had school shootings back then? Same amount? More? Less?

        Republicans cause more damage than guns ever will. Share Our Wealth

        by KVoimakas on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 09:02:34 AM PST

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        •  If you're interested (1+ / 0-)
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          in finding out, I invite you to do the lifting and find out. I'm not interested enough to do so. In general, however, people heavily romanticize the past and think it was a lot better than it actually was, and I caution you against falling into that trap.

          My only message to you is "Don't shit where you eat."

          We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another. -- Jonathan Swift

          by raptavio on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 09:09:29 AM PST

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          •  I did go looking (6+ / 0-)

            There are incidents of school related shootings. Suicides and accidental shootings and grievance shootings involving one on one crime.

            I found this interesting, September 24, 1959: “Twenty-seven men and boys and an arsenal were seized in the Bronx last night as the police headed off a gang war resulting from the fatal shooting of a teen-ager Monday at Morris High School.” Gangs in '59. Who knew?

            But, I didn't find incidents of mass shooting like we are addressing. It is a relatively new phenomena. The Whitman sniper shooting from the tower happened in Texas in '66 and IMO ushered in a whole new ballgame.

            "The scientific nature of the ordinary man is to go on out and do the best you can." John Prine

            by high uintas on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 09:55:59 AM PST

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    •  When you delineate the differences (3+ / 0-)

      in your advocacy people will give your claim credibility. As things stand, your essential and ultimate aims align perfectly. It is known in the vernacular as "not a dime's worth of difference."

      I can think of 10 different times I have invited RKBA members to spell out the differences between their aims and those of NRA. At no time has there been a cogent reply. But there has been plenty of mockery, jeering, insult and warnings from on high not to "engage."

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