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  •  Holy crap (1+ / 0-)
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    Don't you think the rest of us know that?  But best shot or not, you damned well tell me how it would have happened.  Don't just throw out this bullshit that with enough sheer will all the blockades would have gone down, tell me what arms you would have specifically twisted, where you'd find the exact votes.  Because I know that push was there, that there was every effort made to get us the best damned deal they could.  You know why I know?  Because there's not a single solitary reason why you'd put your Presidency on the line like that unless that was your goal.  We had to have the foot in the door just like every other piece of landmark legislation of the past.  That's what we got.  Now let's get to work and get more and stop grossing over what should have been.

    "A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism." -- Carl Sagan

    by artmartin on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 03:21:23 PM PST

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    •  Do you see single payer rising up again if we (1+ / 0-)
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      regain House in 2014? If it is true as reported that the President believes health care costs are the single redressable issue in the budget battles, then we need to coalesce support and get this done. To do otherwise, jeapordizes his legacy as he has identified health care costs as number one spending issue.

      "If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." Winston Churchill

      by Kvetchnrelease on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 06:34:20 AM PST

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      •  I really think that if we (0+ / 0-)

        get the House back and reform the filibuster that yes, we will see a move towards single payer or the interim step of a public option.  An absolute supermajority in the Senate and a Democratic House would be amazing in terms of progressive reforms.

        "A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism." -- Carl Sagan

        by artmartin on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 12:26:31 PM PST

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