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  •  iran has our oil. (5+ / 0-)

    that is why we must attack them.

    The drums have never ceased for this and all the horseshit about Iran being a threat to the US is just the same stupid shit Team Bush fed us about Saddam.

    Iraq WAS about oil; Iran IS about oil.

    Nothing more, nothing less.

    The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

    by xxdr zombiexx on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 09:42:55 AM PST

    •  No, it is not "nothing more" (4+ / 0-)
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      Sandino, Dexter, letsgetreal, allenjo

      It is about the power of imperialism and the threat of independent poles in the world, like Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, etc. The U.S., with its allies behind it, wants and needs to reign supreme in the world, without challenge.

      Eli Stephens
      Left I on the News
      "Stand Up, Fight Back!"

      by elishastephens on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 09:47:25 AM PST

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      •  Heh? (0+ / 0-)

        I would be looking at China, then... not Iran.

      •  We don't badger NK anything like we badger (2+ / 0-)
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        Iran.

        Why?

        (you know the answer......)

        I mean, sure, you're partly correct, as in not being incorrect, but both points - mine and yours - are true and correct.

        The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

        by xxdr zombiexx on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 09:56:01 AM PST

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        •  Partly because (2+ / 0-)
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          Claudius Bombarnac, copymark

          North Korea can actually hurt us.

          The Pentagon estimates 50,000 US casualties in a Korean conflict. South Korean civilian casualties in the millions. Seoul destroyed in the first hours by DPRK artillery.

          And that's assuming the DPRK doesn't use nukes.

          We really, really don't want to go there.

          If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

          by Major Kong on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 10:21:30 AM PST

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          •  No oil. (1+ / 0-)
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            The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

            by xxdr zombiexx on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 12:17:30 PM PST

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            •  Oil is rapidly becoming passé as shale oil (0+ / 0-)

              deposits are increasingly opened up in the US. The new commodity of global interest for the Empire are the rare earth metals. North Korea just happens to be sitting on trillions$ of the materials.

              As China is currently North Korea's largest trade partner, it is a natural for them to get first dibs on the goodies - especially as they already know their strategic value.

              Of course, the US is not going to stand idly by while this is happening. It is moving a fleet of gunboats into the area in preparation for some good ol' American diplomacy.

            •  Who says it can't be both (0+ / 0-)

              Not to mention that North Korea isn't in the same neighborhood as Israel.

              If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

              by Major Kong on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 02:09:32 PM PST

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    •  Iran is about more than oil.... (4+ / 0-)

      It's also gas. (/snark)

      Iran has 16% of world's gas reserves in the South Fars gas fields. It has recently done a deal with Iraq and Syria (the Shia crescent) to build a pipeline to the Mediterranean and thence to gas hungry Turkey and Europe.

      BUT, US backed Qatar (who share the same field) want a pipeline to go though Jordan, Syria, Turkey (the Sunni crescent) and then to Europe.

      Just another reason why the US/GCC is involved in overthrowing the Syrian regime. Any bets this pipeline will be bombed by "terrorists" faster than it can be built?

      U.S. brushes off Iran-Iraq-Syria gas line
       Nov. 20, 2012

      WASHINGTON, Nov. 20 (UPI) -- The U.S. government said plans by Iran to build a natural gas pipeline through Iraq to Syria may run into problems with economic sanctions.
      ...
      Nuland said Iran was "bragging" about the pipeline with the latest report.

      "I would simply say that the construction of any kind of an Iranian-Syrian pipeline could potentially raise sanctions issues under U.S. law on either Iran or Syria, including for international entities who might decide to participate in it either by financing or by construction," she said.

      Ever wonder why the US spent over a decade in Afghanistan playing whack-a-mole with a bunch of ill equipped ragtag Taliban in the name of bringing "democracy" and women's rights to the country? The US had plans to topple the Taliban well before 9/11.
      India, China & the IPI pipeline

      The Iran-Pakistan-India (IPI) gas pipeline has  been constructed to the border of Pakistan. The US is pressuring Pakistan and India to go with the Turkmenistan–Afghanistan–Pakistan–India (TAPI)

      A string of threats and complaints emanating from Washington have fallen on deaf ears in Pakistan, a country that will be suffering energy shortages as soon as 2012 if new sources are not found. U.S. officials have gone so far as to hint that U.S. aid to Pakistan will be affected if Islamabad goes ahead with the IPI pipeline.  For Pakistan, threats of lowered financial assistance pale in comparison to the threat that energy shortfalls could pose to an already beleaguered Pakistani government.

      American diplomats have not been able to scuttle the IPI project and push through their favored TAPI pipeline, an indication of American decline in the region.  States like China, India and Russia are not only increasingly viable alternatives to provide aid, technology, and investment in the region, but are also willing to do business with anyone.

      The US fills coffins while China fills coffers.
      •  Iran is about more than oil and gas... (1+ / 0-)
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        Claudius Bombarnac

        Its also electricity.

        Irans electricity generaton from solar, wind, geo-thermal, gas, coal, and nuclear power plants is designed not only to service Iran's own needs, but as a product Iran has for sale to neighbouring countries...

        Iran exports annually 5.5 TWh of electricity to seven countries surrounding Iran. Iran's electricity grid is currently connected to Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan.
        ...the real issue for the West may be that these countries are not paying in US dollars or Euro's for Iran's oil, gas, and electricity.

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