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  •  Hmm Here is what the Founder of the Democratic (7+ / 0-)

    Party had to say:

    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

    That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. "

    As I recall they didn't accomplish that in 1776 by writing strongly worded letters to the editor.

    2) Here is another comment from Thomas Jefferson:

    " what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it's natural manure."

    http://www.theatlantic.com/...

    Hmmm.  Tom didn't exactly go for that Third Way bullshit, did he?

    •  "Taxation without Representation is Tranny" (4+ / 0-)
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      The British government was considered tyrannical by the colonists, not because it past laws they didn't like, but they had no representation in Parliament.  They were powerless to change the laws without resorting to violence.  The only reason US citizens would be justified in taking up arms would be if their right to vote was restricted or if the elections were fraudulent.  But, of course, restricting the franchise or rigged elections don't happen in the US.

      •  Why bother cancelling the elections (1+ / 0-)
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        when you can just hack the electronic voting machines?

        Paper ballots overseen, guarded and counted by representatives of both parties are largely secure. So why replace them with computerized voting?

         Who the hell can know what is going on in an electronic box.  Our banks have had millions stolen from them-- and just try connecting to the Internet without a firewall and anti-virus software.

    •  "It is it's" (0+ / 0-)

      I know you're quoting The Atlantic, but Jefferson didn't really write that, did he?

    •  And he also owned slaves (0+ / 0-)

      Not everyone is perfect, and I think that as prescient as he was in some regards, he was woefully myopic here.

      Were you to transport him to the present, assuming he didn't get a life sentence for slavery, I think it's pretty clear he'd say something to the effect of "Huh, guess I was wrong about that.", but in more eloquent terms of course.

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