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  •  Spot om, and with the stats so high for (4+ / 0-)

    illegally owned gun use (90% you say), it makes less sense perhaps to pursue registration efforts, which I was on the fence about.

    This sounds like a solid proposal which could garner support from both pro and ant-gun folks on the Democratic side: I think we're all gravely concerned about stolen and trafficked guns.

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    by mahakali overdrive on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 12:14:08 PM PST

    •  Oh, wait, Mayor Bloomberg? (4+ / 0-)

      I am having a bit of trust issue with Bloomerg. If he's pushing this bill, I'm going to look into it far more closely still. I have yet to see him promote anything I feel comfortable supporting. I think that's the definition of political kryptonite, personally.

      Does anyone have a link to the text of this proposal? I would like to fully read it if Bloomberg backs it.

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      by mahakali overdrive on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 12:21:59 PM PST

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    •  Some of us more than others, clearly. (0+ / 0-)
      I think we're all gravely concerned about stolen and trafficked guns.
      •  Every single person should be concerned (4+ / 0-)

        about this. Why would some be more than others? Do you think that the victims of violent crimes with stolen guns are somehow selected by some specific criterion? While I do currently live in a low-crime, rural area, I previously lived in a "gang-designated" zone that was urban, and we had stray bullets come through houses as well as burglaries on my street. I've personally been mugged once at gun point in San Francisco as well something like twenty years ago (while with a group of people, no less).

        So if you're singling out those who live in lower income, urban areas, I'm sorry but that's just inappropriate because there are huge social factors for why people can't choose to just up and move and besides which, home is home. I really don't know what you're getting at, thus, but I do think 150% that we need to stop stolen and trafficked guns considering that they are -- according to Sen Gillibrand -- responsible for 90% of violent crimes! That's simply outrageous and obviously a strong priority to be dealt with. I had no idea it was this high of a %.

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        by mahakali overdrive on Wed Jan 09, 2013 at 08:46:14 PM PST

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        •  MO, I absolutely agree with you. (1+ / 0-)
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          And specifically did not "single out" anyone.

          I too have experienced first-hand the horrid damage wrought by gun violence.

          All too well.

          But there have been comments in some diaries here and in other forums that suggest resistance to any proposed attempts to improve our state and federal laws and regulation of firearms --- e.g., 'We don't need any more laws... just enforce the laws already on the books (blah, blah, blah),' and such.

          Clearly, there is room to improve state and federal measures to address all the issues and factors you describe.

          Not to mention, attitudes about guns and gun violence at all levels of society?

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