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  •  That's the whole point (4+ / 0-)

    If we're going to start denying rights to and/or locking up those with "dangerous" mental illnesses (and their parents), then first we need to define who the mentally ill are, and who is also most at risk for mishandling guns.

    We know an Asperger's kid stole his mom's gun and killed her.  Can you PROVE, yes PROVE beyond any doubt that if an Autism parent owns a gun, that the Autism kid will never get a hold of it and play with it?  Dangerous or not, it's a risk yes?

    So do we deny Autism parents gun rights to keep guns from causing accidents?  And where do we draw the line between the dangerous mental illnesses and the non-dangerous ones?

    I'm not the one who started down this road.  Ready to reject the discrimination of our Constitutional rights based on mental illness yet?  Either we're innocent until proven guilty, or we're not.

    •  an assessment process takes place - obviously (0+ / 0-)

      and then YES - NO guns for those people if they are considered a danger, or they LIVE with people considered a danger to themselves or others

      •  In a court of law, right? (0+ / 0-)

        Constitutional rights can only be removed through due process in a court of law.  This isn't going to be a mark on a chart from a regular doctor's visit.  Our rights are not so fragile.  The assessment as you put it, must be done in front of a judge.

        I just want everyone to know that keeping guns out of the hands of the "dangerous" mentally ill basically involves dragging every person in America with a mental illness into a court to defend their sanity and their rights.

        It will be unprecidented to tell Ameican citizens that they no longer have Constitutional rights because their child is crazy.  I also have to wonder how long the politically correct crowd will stand for thousands or millions of people with mental illness to essentially be found to be violent criminals in a court of law.

        Have fun with that...

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