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  •  Apples and oranges (5+ / 0-)

    There is no need for anyone who promotes bigotry to come and speak like this on a day of national celebration for a president that stresses the advancement of gay civil rights.

    If you can point out some racist remarks made by one of the speakers to be there, I'd be all for excluding them too. If it were revealed that the gay poet there has had a history of racist remarks, I'd say boot his ass too.

    •  Who promoted bigotry? (0+ / 0-)

      He said what he said 20 years ago.  Can you tell us how he feels today.  Also, I have a question.  If someone doesn't support gay marriage, are they a bigot?

      •  He endorsed Chick-Fil-A (7+ / 0-)

        in August.
        And it's more of the "gay people are sinners", the gay reprogramming thing etc. to which I object.

        Do I think the man should be treated like a pariah forever? No. Do I think he should be denied a plum spot at a national day of celebration for a president that ran on inclusion and gay civil rights as a cornerstone of his presidency? Yes.

        •  So did a bunch of Democrats and blacks. (0+ / 0-)

          Perhaps he supported Chick-Fil-A's right to speak its beliefs.  I mean, there was a pic of a mob of black folks in the south holding up chick-Fil-a bags.  I'm telling you, this pastor won't be the only 'homophobe' at or participating in inauguration.  How about this preachers present day work on eradicating modern day slavery.  Does his work today not cut him some slack to be able to pray on the national mall?  If this guy get up their talking some anti gay shit, I'll be the first out my seat to clock his ass before SS takes me down.  Relax, a little forgiveness of idiots can go a long way.  Lol.  I do feel you to an extent though.  I remember not feeling Hillary or Bill after all that racist shit they said in 08.  Then Obama had the nerve to pick her for SoS!!!  I was hot.  Now I loves me some Hills and look forward to quitting my job in two years to work on her campaign.  Same way even I ,as a black woman, can see beauty in Mt. Rushmore through the backdrop of an egregious history.

          •  All I can tell you (3+ / 0-)
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            it is offensive to me as a gay man to have him there as a speaker. I would never try to state would should be offensive to you as an African American or a woman. I simply cannot ever have a complete perspective. You just have to take my word for it that it is offensive to a large percentage of the gay community - who is politically active at least.

          •  Again, why? After all, he is the president of (0+ / 0-)

            the entire country including the kill the gays portion so why the fuck should it matter if he gets up there and calls for the forced "treatment" or even execution of all gays?

            You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

            by Throw The Bums Out on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 10:09:19 AM PST

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      •  To answer your question, yes. (1+ / 0-)
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        If someone doesn't support the idea that people should have equal legal rights regardless of sexual orientation, then that person is a bigot.  

        Now, mind you, bigot is a strong word (which I suspect is why you chose it), and we don't like to think of people as bigots merely because they haven't embraced something we think of as rather new, i.e., marriage equality.  But if a person thinks that my sexual orientation is a permissible basis for treating me differently under the law, then yes, that person's got a problem.  

        I know lots of straight progressives think it's okay if they're in the "marriage is a bridge too far" camp.  It isn't, though.  If you really believe gays and lesbians are the equals of straight people, then you should be for us having the same rights as straight people do.  If you think denying gay people the right to marry is not such a big deal, then I'd urge you to think a great deal more about the issue.  De jure discrimination has effects beyond the mere denial of legal rights.  It's also officially stigmatizing and marks an entire class of people as inferior.  

        Hope that answers your question.

        "Ça c'est une chanson que j'aurais vraiment aimé ne pas avoir écrite." -- Barbara

        by FogCityJohn on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 12:29:43 AM PST

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    •  No one said there's a need. (0+ / 0-)

      Y'know, there are certain patterns in the writing of people who are intellectually dishonest  ...

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