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  •  There you go being narrow again (0+ / 0-)

    For if there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life. - Albert Camus

    by Anne Elk on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 10:58:30 AM PST

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    •  Cell signaling predates the evolution of neurons (0+ / 0-)

      and neurotransmitters by eons. Single-celled bacteria use cell signaling for things like quorum sensing. That should clue you in to the fact that social evolution in the broadest biological sense is not just about dopamine and serotonin.

      •  Never said it was. (1+ / 0-)
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        But you merely emphasize the concept that, in contrast to the assertion of the diarist, neurochemical feedback loops that guide behavior have been around for much longer than humans have and, as you point out, even longer than multi-cellular organisms. However, not to get too far afield, it makes more sense to discuss these issues in terms of primates, which I have tried to do. In that context, dopamine particular is a central actor, as has been widely demonstrated in the scientific literature, particularly when one considers socially destructive behaviors, and that brings us back to the diarist's original point about getting rid of profit, something I contend is a hard-wired, although complex, trait. The diarist complained that I thought of profit too broadly, but I think that focusing specifically on monetary profit misses a deeper reality about the biology of human behavior.

        I think we have rather exhausted this topic now.

        For if there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life. - Albert Camus

        by Anne Elk on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 01:30:50 PM PST

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