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  •  The fact that the United States of America (0+ / 0-)

    not only recognizes the Vatican as a country but also sends an ambassador to it is proof positive that we have moved far beyond the wall of separation of church and state built so carefully by our founders.

    Jefferson and Madison and the rest would be appalled at this, but it sure doesn't seem to bother the "original intent" crowd.

    If Ireland had the balls to deconnect their ambassador relationship with the Vatican over the abuse issue, why can't the country with the SECULAR Constitution do it?

    •  Two points.. (0+ / 0-)

      Papal sovereignty over Vatican City is a fact. Refusing to recognize that is denial, not rationality.

      Sometimes it's as important to have an ambassador in place with folks we DONT approve of as it is with those we do.

      •  In case you hadn't noticed (0+ / 0-)

        we don't have ambassadors to any other religious institution in the world, and we don't allow any other country that we send ambassadors to the right to veto our choices for that position.  In essence, the Vatican is the only place that is allowed to have a say over who our government chooses to be the ambassador, and they have exercised that exclusive right. Which means that our government allows a religious institution to tell us how to run our government.

        So anyone who is chosen to be ambassador to the Vatican from the US is HANDPICKED by the Vatican itself and guarantees that this person will not have an unbiased approach to his job (there won't ever be a "her" ambassador to the Vatican).

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