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  •  Not only is the House broken (3+ / 0-)
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    but it's designed to remain that way until after 2020.

    Awesome.

    Atlas shrugged. Jesus wept.

    by trevzb on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 08:35:51 AM PST

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    •  Wll, at least into (2+ / 0-)
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      the mid-late 'teens. Population movement and such will fudge the exquisite gerrymandering even as demographics changes slowly swamp it.

      "Be just and good." John Adams to Thomas Jefferson

      by ogre on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 08:47:33 AM PST

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      •  Problem with that is that (2+ / 0-)
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        apportionment and districting doesn't change until the new census, so any "blue people" moving into red states will probably only make the blue areas in red states bluer, leaving red districts overrepresented and in control.

        "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

        by bryduck on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 08:59:31 AM PST

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        •  There were some (1+ / 0-)
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          districts that were competitive. Not many but some. A tanking of the GOP brand and changing demographics could change things by 2016 or 2018. Obviously better to win the House outright but even having a razor-thin GOP majority would help.

          Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

          by fenway49 on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 09:01:29 AM PST

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          •  I don't see it happening that soon. (1+ / 0-)
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            We had as good a year as we are likely to have until 2020 last year, and we didn't come close. We are verrrrry likely to lose the Senate in 2014, so even if we do retake the House, we'll be stuck in neutral anyway. Ymmv, of course.

            "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

            by bryduck on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 09:07:10 AM PST

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            •  We'll see (1+ / 0-)
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              We had a decent shot to lose the Senate in 2012 and that didn't happen. Of course that doesn't mean 2014 will be the same, but there's a lot left to happen.

              What if they GOP jumps the shark on default? What if the GOP blinks and the Tea Party fanatics primary everyone in sight, giving us a bunch of unpalatable loonie candidates as opponents? I have no idea how it will play out but I'm not writing off the Senate yet. Or the House though obviously that will be tougher.

              Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

              by fenway49 on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 09:37:43 AM PST

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              •  2014 Senate is a magnitude (0+ / 0-)

                more difficult than 2012 was. Non-Presidential year and a far worse slate of states to defend--all red states that got redder in 2012.
                Nobody cares about the default in the electorate; shark -jumping won't make a dent unless some really bad things happen in everyone's daily lives, and it's a crapshoot as to whether the Dems won't suffer for them!
                I actually think the House is an easier task than the Senate before 2020, and the Tea Party is our only ally for either, really. That they are imploding is not good for us.

                "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

                by bryduck on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 09:47:01 AM PST

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        •  Migration of folks isn't.................. (0+ / 0-)

          the only potential factor that will effect the demographics of the House and Senate races in 2014. Over 1 million native-born Hispanics will turn 18 in the next 22 month and over 2 million older Americans will die.  Of course, not all younger Hispanics will vote and vote Dem and not all older Americans always vote and vote Rethug; but those kinds of numbers are bound have a positive impact.

          The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation--HDT

          by cazcee on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 01:51:49 PM PST

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