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  •  WaPo should be ashamed of itself (4+ / 0-)

    in civilized countries the press led the charge against guns. They ceretainly didn't pander to the pro gun interests that much is for certain.

    Pure cowardice.

    •  I tire of the Kossack gun nuts - those (4+ / 0-)

      who oppose AWB, limits on magazine clips, closing loopholes at gun shows, ... Those are common sense solutions . In my book, if a person opposes those measures, they are gun nuts. We have too many of them here. Why should we have a group on Daily Kos that parrots NRA talking points?

      •  40% of gun owners are democrats. There are (1+ / 0-)
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        plenty of people who are totally with you on most every political issue and point and yet you would dismiss them because they value their rights under the 2A?  How sad.

        •  You can hide behind (5+ / 0-)

          the 2nd all that you want but you must realize that ultimately this all comes down to your hobby vs innocent lives. The data is out there from other countries that have enforced gun restrictions - less people die. It really is that simple.

          •  It is not my hobby, it is my right....just as (0+ / 0-)

            valuable as my right to speak out on this forum or my right to vote or my right to have my own religion or none.  It is really that simple.

            Other countries do not have near the population that we do, they do not have a Constitutional right to bear arms and never did and do not have the amount of weapons within their borders that we do, nor did they have near as many private gun owners as we have.

             No data anywhere can prove that anything being proposed would stop even one mass murder here, much less decrease guns in this country.   Our country has a unique situation and any proposal must look to our own issues of protecting our constitutional rights all the while finding ways that would go after those who would commit mass murders....however they would choose to kill, regardless if it is a bomb to a building or a gun.

            •  It's your arm. Keep your arm. Like you promised. (0+ / 0-)

              If you don't keep it for whatever reason, why would that responsibility fall on me.

              Sign my White House Petition Enforce the KEEP in the Second Amendment We don't have a problem with gun control, we have a problem with gun owners controlling their guns.

              by 88kathy on Fri Jan 11, 2013 at 07:52:34 AM PST

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                •  Is the shot gun owner in the recent school (0+ / 0-)

                  shooting going to be held criminally and civilly responsible.

                  No.

                  The responsibility for failure to KEEP fell on me (society).

                  Sign my White House Petition Enforce the KEEP in the Second Amendment We don't have a problem with gun control, we have a problem with gun owners controlling their guns.

                  by 88kathy on Fri Jan 11, 2013 at 08:05:28 AM PST

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                  •  The shop gun owner sold to a person who had every (0+ / 0-)

                    legal right to own a gun, thus he had no responsibility....he followed the laws as they pertained to him as a gun shop owner.

                     That gun was then stolen.  She is dead, and the gun was illegally taken and used.  We know very little about the situation at that house.  For all we know, he might have broken them out of a gun safe or pried off gun locks.

                    Perhaps you should direct your anger to the murderer and criminal who could have used any weapon of choice including a gun, a match or a home made bomb for that matter.  It was the responsibility of the murderer for the crimes that happen.  

        •  You value your rights, but not your responsibility (0+ / 0-)

          When you fail to keep your arms, you say oopsie and leave it to me to pick up the pieces.

          It's not your fault when your gun gets into the wrong hands.  REALLY.

          I can't control your gun, only you can control your gun.  You don't do it, then you are criminally and civilly liable, even if it was only your gun being a gun in the wrong hands.

          Why do I get the responsibility after you say oopsie.

          Sign my White House Petition Enforce the KEEP in the Second Amendment We don't have a problem with gun control, we have a problem with gun owners controlling their guns.

          by 88kathy on Fri Jan 11, 2013 at 07:50:32 AM PST

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