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  •  I see those ads for Ft. Lauderdale. (23+ / 0-)

    "A less taxing place."

    Sounds like:

    "If you're greedy, come here!"

    Which doesn't stop them for begging for federal tax dollars  every time a hurricane hits.

    "Michael Moore, who was filming a movie about corporate welfare called 'Capitalism: A Love Story,' sought and received incentives."

    by Bush Bites on Fri Jan 11, 2013 at 05:34:45 AM PST

    •  In MI-Less taxing only for the corporations-for (17+ / 0-)

      ...individuals, it's a totally different story, as Eclectablog recently reported:  51% of all Michigan tax payers will pay MORE in personal income taxes in 2012 and beyond

      Now Snyder, The Liar, adds insult to injury, using our tax dollars to advertise how he & his GOPer legislators have in a short time managed to reverse decades of gains for workers.  

      •  Isn't that how to politically kill Republicans? (6+ / 0-)

        "Governor Rick Snyder and his political buddies raised your taxes while sipping martinis!" or some such.  should be the Democratic mantra for the next decade.

        The road to Hell is paved with pragmatism.

        by TheOrchid on Fri Jan 11, 2013 at 08:26:25 AM PST

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        •  Yes-but only if the Democratic Party in MI begins (7+ / 0-)

 persistently and consistently inform the public--from now till the next election, and to build a viable strong opposition.  

          So far, other than people who read Democratic/ progresive blogs or who take the time to read the (very) occasional articles in the papers, few people in MI understand the full personal impact of what Snyder & the GOP legislature have done to them.  

          Getting the message out is the first, and IMHO, the single most vital step to holding Snyder & Legislature accountable.  They've given the Democratic Party in MI the ammunition, but it's up to the Dems to get the message out loud, clearly and concisely.  

          It's difficult when the media is so clueless/ deliberately obtuse/ deliberately slanting the news to reflect the republican/ corporatist message--but, it's vital to the citizens and workers of MI that they fully understand how Snyder and Co. have royally and thoroughly screwed them.

          •  We need new Democratic leadership (1+ / 0-)
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            The Michigan Democratic Party has not been pulling its weight for a good decade. We were strong, but we've been coasting downhill for a long time.

            That's why Dick and Betsy DeVos have managed to take over everything that matters in the state.

            Until the rank and file stands up and kicks Mark Brewer's lazy ass out of the top spot and we start rebuilding our strength statewide, things are only going to get worse.

            Wealth doesn't trickle down -- it rises up.

            by elsaf on Fri Jan 11, 2013 at 10:01:36 AM PST

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            •  The Michigan Dems are NOT the reason... (1+ / 0-)
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              ...Dick & Betsy DeVos have so much influence. That's too simple and belies the things we need to do to confront enormous amounts of money influencing our elections. I've been critical of the MDP plenty but laying everything at their doorstep isn't helpful.

              "Back off, man. I'm a scientist."
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              by Eclectablog on Fri Jan 11, 2013 at 10:16:41 AM PST

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              •  There is basic work that hasn't been done (4+ / 0-)

                Why didn't we have a credible candidate for governor?

                During Jennifer Granholm's last term, the state party should have been developing a successor. John Cherry? If anyone had any real idea he was going to be the candidate, why was he all but invisible during the four years prior? I think Virg Bernero could have been a good governor, but he didn't have the money or strong statewide organization to challenge the DeVos machine. Nobody knew who he was (outside of Lansing) before he announced, and most people still didn't know who he was after the election.

                Jennifer Granholm became governor because she had a strong state party promoting her for a good decade before she ran. She moved up the ranks with party support until she had a high enough profile to run for governor and win.

                Our current malaise started back in 1994 when the state party organization didn't have the strength of resolve to force Richard Austin to step aside. He was too old to campaign and a near nobody from Macomb County (Candice Miller) beat him, taking the secretary of state office for the GOP. Candice has had her party's active support ever since, so she managed to get to Congress.

                Meanwhile, the ancient Dems in state office were dropping one by one. The GOP pushed young, rising candidates into those positions while the Democrats were pushing the same old same old.

                Even in the Democratic wave election of 2008 we didn't manage to make significant gains in the Legislature.

                So, today we have a state that is still nominally blue (votes for Democrats for president), but entirely dominated by the GOP -- which has managed to gerrymander itself quite a bit of security.

                We have bright young people in the system, but not nearly enough of them. We need a statewide talent hunt. We need to present a credible candidate in every single district. We need to support those candidates after they win, so they can move up the ladder.

                We need to stop fumbling great opportunities like the McCotter meltdown. (We couldn't find anybody better than an unknown doctor with a strong accent and a middle eastern name to oppose Bentivolio? The 11th is a Republican leaning district, but a strong Democrat could have taken the crazy reindeer farmer down. We didn't have anybody ready to go there.)

                I could go on and on. Until our state party leadership stops coasting and starts running an aggressive game, nothing is going to get better here. That's not going to have until we have new leadership.

                Wealth doesn't trickle down -- it rises up.

                by elsaf on Fri Jan 11, 2013 at 10:50:42 AM PST

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                •  You're not making much sense to me (1+ / 0-)
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                  Mark Brewer became the Chair of the MDP in 1995, long before Jennifer Granholm's run for governor in 2002. It was she who chose John Cherry, a very strong labor candidate. Laying that at the feet of the MDP and Brewer simply doesn't fly.

                  I blame John Cherry as much as anyone for the lack of a solid contender in 2010. He bowed out of the race way too late in the game for anyone to have a reasonable shot at raising money and putting up a serious fight against Snyder with his business pals' money behind him.

                  You seem to accord Mark Brewer a LOT of power like being able to force people to resign and making Lt. Gov. choices for our gubernatorial candidates. He may have some influence, I suppose, but, at the end of the day, he's not a puppet master.

                  I won't argue that we (Michigan Dems as a whole) need to step up our game in terms of fielding candidates but I don't put all the blame for that on the state party officials. That's as much on US as anyone. I am a member of my County Democratic Party Executive Board and take an active role in supporting up and coming candidates but that doesn't happen everywhere. It's completely dependent on people stepping up at the local level. The state party coordinates their efforts statewide but we all have to share in the blame when we don't have a pipeline full of candidates, in my opinion.

                  "Back off, man. I'm a scientist."
                  -- Dr. Peter Venkman

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                  by Eclectablog on Fri Jan 11, 2013 at 11:18:08 AM PST

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            •  We need to support Progressive Dem... (1+ / 0-)
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              Organizations throughout the State for a start--Progressive Caucus, Genesee Co. --attend meetings, run for/ support the very basic levels of representation, from Delegate, on up, help inform, inform ourselves, etc. etc.  

              "We are the change we've been looking for..."  We have to start somewhere.  

              Progressive Dems America Facebook.

              Progressive Democrats of Monroe County

              Berkley Democratic Club

              etc, etc.

    •  Re (0+ / 0-)
      Which doesn't stop them for begging for federal tax dollars  every time a hurricane hits.
      They pay federal taxes the same as anyone else.

      (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
      Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

      by Sparhawk on Fri Jan 11, 2013 at 08:47:25 AM PST

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