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  •  No I demand you keep your guns and alienate you. (0+ / 0-)

    If you lose control of you gun, you say oopsie, and leave me to pick up the pieces.

    If the bad guys take your gun, then I have to pick up the pieces not you.  It's not your fault.  

    It's ok I'll take care of it.  NOT

    If you were a responsible gun owner, you would sign my petition because it would make no difference to you.  You would keep your gun and what happened when the bad guys took it, wouldn't be an issue.

    Sign my White House Petition Enforce the KEEP in the Second Amendment We don't have a problem with gun control, we have a problem with gun owners controlling their guns.

    by 88kathy on Fri Jan 11, 2013 at 07:29:14 AM PST

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    •  I don't believe I could sign that (0+ / 0-)

      because your law doesn't discharge me from penalty even if it isn't in my possession.

      They same could be true of a car.  If someone steals my car and then kills someone else with it, you are saying I should be liable.  Not going for that at all.

      Furthermore, does your law allow me to sell my firearms and buy different ones?  Being able to buy and sell personal property is kinda of big deal in America.

      •  That is the point. Your gun is your gun (0+ / 0-)

        not mine.  I cannot control your gun, only you can do that.  And when you fail you expect society to pick up the pieces.

        NO

        The 2nd Amendment doesn't say the right to keep and bear carriages,  It DOES say the right to keep and bear arms.

        And yes you can legally sever your connection with any given gun by legal means.  This is where the gun show connection comes in, no you can't walk around a gun show and sell it to some yayhoo, that doesn't sever you legal connection to the gun, this is where background checks come in, no you can't transfer your legal connection to the gun unless you have a background check on the new bearer.

        And yes, you can establish a legal connection with any gun you want, just keep me out of the loop and take responsibility for keeping it,  Don't come crying to me with the bad guys took my gun, silly me, someone might get hurt.  That is totally your responsibility criminally and civilly.  Restitution and prison.

        Sign my White House Petition Enforce the KEEP in the Second Amendment We don't have a problem with gun control, we have a problem with gun owners controlling their guns.

        by 88kathy on Fri Jan 11, 2013 at 02:13:36 PM PST

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        •  Legally it can't be the fault (0+ / 0-)

          of a property owner if a burgler steals their proporty and uses said property to hurt someone else.  It is complete nonesense actually.

          Furthermore, if I accidently hurt someone with my own firearm, my current liability insurance already covers it.

          What you are proposing is the make me liable for things other people may do with my private property.  American law doesn't work that way thank God!

          •  You don't have the responsibility to keep any item (0+ / 0-)

            other than arms. This is clearly worded in the 2nd Amendment.

            It is not the right to keep and bear carriages.It is not the right to keep and bear property.

            It is the right to keep and bear arms.

            Is keep a merely decorative word?  

            Why didn't they just leave it out then.  The right to bear arms.  Why did they say the right to keep and bear arms?  

            I think they might have meant that you would be keeping them.  Not just when it was convenient, and then giving them to society to care for like some kind of stray cat.  But to actually keep them.

            Sign my White House Petition Enforce the KEEP in the Second Amendment We don't have a problem with gun control, we have a problem with gun owners controlling their guns.

            by 88kathy on Fri Jan 11, 2013 at 03:40:10 PM PST

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            •  Someone committing a crime (0+ / 0-)

              against me precludes me from any further crimes that person does with stolen property.  That is the law and it won't change.

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