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  •  I wish it wasn't true (22+ / 0-)


    “We learn from history that we do not learn from history”
    ― Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

    "If we ever needed to vote we sure do need to vote now" -- Rev. William Barber, NAACP

    by Cali Scribe on Sun Jan 13, 2013 at 06:19:11 PM PST

    •  Or Faulkner's bit about the past never being dead. (7+ / 0-)

      I can only imagine how many people in the last thousand years sat or stood in the same place I'm currently occupying this evening. It's mind-boggling.

      The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed."

      by teacherjon on Sun Jan 13, 2013 at 06:44:36 PM PST

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      •  past as prologue ? (2+ / 0-)
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        that's the phrase i was thinking of . . .

        Ted Kennedy: “The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die…”

        by jlms qkw on Sun Jan 13, 2013 at 07:15:54 PM PST

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      •  This is the sort of thing I've often (6+ / 0-)

        played with. When I moved to PA in 74 it hit me how young our country is compared to the rest of the world. Although Philadelphia had much more of the really old buildings than the midwest I had lived in, it was still nowhere near the eastern hemisphere's millenias old structures.

        '79 I went to Alaska the first time and was struck by the opposite. Nothing older than 40's gas stations. However, then and during the 14 years I lived there, the natural world was what overwhelmed. There were moments during fly in hunting or fishing trips that I felt it was possible the ground I was standing on, no human had before. The vastness, the few people who had been in more accessible places, the lack of anything clearly human (bottle caps, broken glass). It was what the first white people coming to America had found.

        '82 Hawaii. The islanders did not use as much stone in their buildings and with much smaller populations. History was mostly at the museums and preserved sites. Similar sense of what it would be like to live there before the human buildings took over nature.

        '98 I went to Japan. 10 days in an ancient culture and country, the modern superimposed on the old, with many traditions preserved in dress and rites.

        These pictures are particularly haunting from the war vs peace exposure. They create chills that are still running up and down my back. It is the history of man that the horrors we should learn from are forgotten as the generations who lived through them die off. Maybe these compilations can help us better absorb the lessons we did not experience so we do not lose them.

        "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

        by Ginny in CO on Sun Jan 13, 2013 at 08:01:20 PM PST

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    •  People do not learn from the experiences (4+ / 0-)
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      of other people, especially not failures. Hubris leads them to argue that they can "do better."
      Some people don't even learn from their own experiences and do the same stupid things over and over, out of habit.

      We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

      by hannah on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 03:33:54 AM PST

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