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  •  liberal (none)
    Jerome,

    I find your use of the word liberal interesting.  What does it mean in French?  As a libertarian, I view liberals as statists.  They want the state to provide a safety net for the poor.  They want the state to provide free universal health care and education.  They want the state to protect the environment.  They want the state to take guns away from people who have not committed a crime.  In what sense do you use the word liberal as the polar opposite as statist?

    I also noticed Frank used the term liberalise in a context where an American would say privatize.  Many libertarians in the U.S. call themselves Classical Liberals (in reference to the Founding Fathers of our country) and see laisse-faire as a classical liberal position.  Do libertarians in France call themselves liberals?  Are there even any libertarians in France?

    •  "libéral" (none)
      in French means almost the opposite of liberal in the US. In French, it is used to describe those that favor laissez faire free market policies. It is usually used as "ultra-libéral" and it is pretty derogatory.

      in the long run, we're all dead (Keynes)

      by Jerome a Paris on Mon May 30, 2005 at 01:55:31 AM PDT

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